The buy of a lifetime on ebay !

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Siggi Palma, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    I say buy all he has then file a snad and get your money back and destroy the coins.
     
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  3. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Second question is not being answered :)

    Question

    Hi thank you for your answer,

    Now if I buy these and they turn out to be fake and mind you I’m a professional numismatist I will file a complaint to the Chinese embassy.

    So I ask again? Are these 100% real Morgan dollars
     
  4. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the real sad part is that these coins are going to end up on the market, eventually, getting mixed in with real morgans.
     
  5. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Yep... coming to a flea market near you.
     
  6. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    They always seem to run these ads on the weekends, when it is hard to get eBay to take any action on them :mad::devil::mad:
     
  7. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    The law applies to eBay, the company facilitating the exchange of goods and money.
     
  8. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    So who has the balls to buy all of them (not paying right away, of course) just to see what happens?
    If you don't pay, can it ruin your eBay account?
    If I can get away with buying them all, and just 'forgetting' to go to PayPal and pay up, and it won't ruin my eBay account, I'd be happy buy them up. I know he'll never send them if I don't pay, but at least it bogs him down, and might even allow me to leave feedback.
     
  9. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    Read the auction. You're going to get 5 rolls of 20 coins for $359.99. That's 1 LOT. He's got over 10 LOTS for sale.

    How many are you gonna buy?
     
  10. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    No it doesn't.
     
  11. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    He has an unlimited number of lots, because they are minting more as we are posting here :eek:
     
  12. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    He answered !

    Question

    Hi thank you for your answer,

    Now if I buy these and they turn out to be fake and mind you I’m a professional numismatist I will file a complaint to the Chinese embassy.

    So I ask again? Are these 100% real Morgan dollars

    Answer
    Yes, Thank you
     
  13. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    That's what I am saying, buy all until he is out... It doesn't matter the cost, because it will 'slip my mind' that I hadn't paid.
     
  14. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    And perfectly legally in China, I might add.
     
  15. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member


    There is nothing you can legally report him to his country for doing. It is only illegal in China to mint fake Chinese coins, not foreign... There government doesn't care one bit that they are making or selling them to us.
     
  16. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Never mind :)

    I´m going to read about this fake china coins thingy :)
     
  17. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    I don't want to hijack or change the subject too much, but this is in the same vein...

    I don't see why our own govt doesn't protect us from outside 'attacks' on it's people like this.
    They have a trade relation with these countries like China, and could use leverage on them.

    Did you know that our government just shut down all production and business at Gibson Guitar because they make the guitars out of wood from India, and the Indian govt said if the guitars are made of Indian wood, then the guitars MUST be produced in India?
    What?!? Our govt is shutting down an American employer, and it's factories, in favor of moving them to India!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_-taqM5Sk0&feature=share

    This is the CEO of Gibson stating they were shut down and told if they return to work they would be prosecuted for 'obstruction of justice', and that the wood from India (rosewood) had been confiscated in the armed raid by federal LEOs.

    Okay, back on topic.
     
  18. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    eBay has a fiduciary duty to its users to help keep them safe. And each of these transactions, they are making money off the sale of the counterfeit coins.

    When the Sec Service busts counterfeiters of currency, they get everyone from the printer to the guy spending the fake bill for real bills. Iin this instance, eBay IS the middle man for the deal. They arranged for the buyer and the seller to meet. In this case, it is online on THEIR forum (website) with their servers and credit card systems.

    If they truly were exempt from any lawsuits in this, they would not let you report counterfeit goods. Goods as in fashion products, coins, anything that can be fake.

    Plus, check out the work of a member of one of the coin boards I am on:
    http://www.coinnews.net/2011/08/25/pcgs-rewards-mike-marshall-for-combatting-counterfeit-coin-sales/
     
  19. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    That's all fine and nice... give the Secret Service a call and tell them you want to report eBay as an accessory to counterfeting. Let me know what they say after they stop laughing.
     
  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I've assumed there's at least some form of safe-harbor immunity for them, as long as they respond promptly to legitimate complaints.

    On the other hand, they do take a scorched-earth approach to questionable auctions, deleting all trace of them so you can't go back and review them. So maybe they do feel at least somewhat vulnerable.
     
  21. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I doubt he will be honest and out himself for the sake of selling his too good to be true knockoffs.
     
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