Second question is not being answered Question Hi thank you for your answer, Now if I buy these and they turn out to be fake and mind you I’m a professional numismatist I will file a complaint to the Chinese embassy. So I ask again? Are these 100% real Morgan dollars
Yeah, the real sad part is that these coins are going to end up on the market, eventually, getting mixed in with real morgans.
They always seem to run these ads on the weekends, when it is hard to get eBay to take any action on them :devil:
So who has the balls to buy all of them (not paying right away, of course) just to see what happens? If you don't pay, can it ruin your eBay account? If I can get away with buying them all, and just 'forgetting' to go to PayPal and pay up, and it won't ruin my eBay account, I'd be happy buy them up. I know he'll never send them if I don't pay, but at least it bogs him down, and might even allow me to leave feedback.
Read the auction. You're going to get 5 rolls of 20 coins for $359.99. That's 1 LOT. He's got over 10 LOTS for sale. How many are you gonna buy?
He answered ! Question Hi thank you for your answer, Now if I buy these and they turn out to be fake and mind you I’m a professional numismatist I will file a complaint to the Chinese embassy. So I ask again? Are these 100% real Morgan dollars Answer Yes, Thank you
That's what I am saying, buy all until he is out... It doesn't matter the cost, because it will 'slip my mind' that I hadn't paid.
There is nothing you can legally report him to his country for doing. It is only illegal in China to mint fake Chinese coins, not foreign... There government doesn't care one bit that they are making or selling them to us.
I don't want to hijack or change the subject too much, but this is in the same vein... I don't see why our own govt doesn't protect us from outside 'attacks' on it's people like this. They have a trade relation with these countries like China, and could use leverage on them. Did you know that our government just shut down all production and business at Gibson Guitar because they make the guitars out of wood from India, and the Indian govt said if the guitars are made of Indian wood, then the guitars MUST be produced in India? What?!? Our govt is shutting down an American employer, and it's factories, in favor of moving them to India! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_-taqM5Sk0&feature=share This is the CEO of Gibson stating they were shut down and told if they return to work they would be prosecuted for 'obstruction of justice', and that the wood from India (rosewood) had been confiscated in the armed raid by federal LEOs. Okay, back on topic.
eBay has a fiduciary duty to its users to help keep them safe. And each of these transactions, they are making money off the sale of the counterfeit coins. When the Sec Service busts counterfeiters of currency, they get everyone from the printer to the guy spending the fake bill for real bills. Iin this instance, eBay IS the middle man for the deal. They arranged for the buyer and the seller to meet. In this case, it is online on THEIR forum (website) with their servers and credit card systems. If they truly were exempt from any lawsuits in this, they would not let you report counterfeit goods. Goods as in fashion products, coins, anything that can be fake. Plus, check out the work of a member of one of the coin boards I am on: http://www.coinnews.net/2011/08/25/pcgs-rewards-mike-marshall-for-combatting-counterfeit-coin-sales/
That's all fine and nice... give the Secret Service a call and tell them you want to report eBay as an accessory to counterfeting. Let me know what they say after they stop laughing.
I've assumed there's at least some form of safe-harbor immunity for them, as long as they respond promptly to legitimate complaints. On the other hand, they do take a scorched-earth approach to questionable auctions, deleting all trace of them so you can't go back and review them. So maybe they do feel at least somewhat vulnerable.