sba $1 coin collection with verities

I also have SBA with Gold Tint 1981 S don't Know if this is type2 or 1..

 

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Is it still in the PVC? flip?

 

ya that the same tint mine has

 

These aren't really worth much, unless you have then in PCGS holders (or, some NGC, as they are more liberal with their grading and have a few MS68's, which would likely only be MS67 at PCGS)....but still, the top pops graded by both of them bring strong money...when offered. You don't see many MS67 SBA's being offered.

As was said, it is one ugly design.

 

thanks for the info

 

It means "no spellcheck".

Chris

 

Okay, I'll be the wiseguy to burst your bubble. Actually, you don't have the complete series because some smartaleck came up with the idea of adding the additional varieties for "Full Talons".

Chris

 

Here it is! I knew I had it saved somewhere.

Chris

http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/add017.html

 

The gold color tint may have been when the metal casted to much BERYLLIUM was in the metal, to my knowledge
working at the plant it was the only metal that used this alloyin the process.
We had to have special coveralls ,a helmet like a motorcycle helmet that coveralls snapped to with a resperator
special gloves etc. when we processed this. very long and hot days
Sandy

 

thanks for the info

 

haha i feel like those shouldnt be counted as varieties but help with the grade or something and i realy dont care to have them with full talons or not ether way haha but i looked and some of the coins have full ones haha

 

I don't bother (nor do I even consider seeking a coin) with 'FT' (full talons). Unless it gets recognized by the CPG, or it's designated by one of the 4 major TPG'S, it doesn't exist...it's a non-entity. With 'full bell lines', 'full steps', 'full torch'/'full bands'... extra designations.... it's just getting crazy. What's next, 'FW' (full windows) on the Jeff memorial??? Certain people have tried to get 'Full Talons' recognized for quite some time now....ain't happening, won't bring any premiums, unless they ARE designated. And that will NOT happen with SBA's.

Just as an aside, one of the 'authors' of cpm9ball's link had the highest graded SBA set, with single pop-tops (and was the leader in trying to convince, for years, PCGS to give the designation.....end result...NOPE!). I believe it was just one more way for him to get even more $$ upon his sale of his set/sets. Heck, I could say a coin has full talons.....it has no bearing on the price. An MS67 SBA is an MS67 SBA, with or without 'full talons'. Again, if they aren't recognized by anyone. I have a top 10 registry set of SBA's, with 6 pop-tops, and the increase in price from when I first purchased them is MUCH more than enough for me to be happy with the results when they get sold (which will be soon). So, 'full talons' is just an old wives tale started by someone who had a stake in it, in order to push prices up.

If there were REALLY full TALONS, by definition, we'd be able to see an actual claw, which I don't see on ANY of the images in the link. They look like fingers, not talons. That first image can NOT be of an MS64 coin...I'd have to see it to believe it, then call the grading company on it for it being overgraded by at least 5 grades....image #1 is of a coin with obvious rub on it. Just another way of trying to suck more $$ out of a buyer...much like the difference in price between a 1975 MS67 Roosie (CU guide is $275), and a 1975 MS67FB Roosie (CU guide is $1,150). Without the designation of 'full bands', a '75 Roosie in MS67, with or without 'full bands', would still be a $275 coin.

Don't get sucked into the 'full talon' thing. That 'alleged' #1 full talon set (and I know DRG is an expert on the series), well, the certs still did not show 'Full Talons' on them, did they? No, they didn't. It was simply a #1 SBA set. End of full talon story.

 

But can we agree the full talons, or full steps etc, tend to mean it is a better strike?

 

i agree haha

 

I've seen MS63 FS Jeffs.......MS63 is a better strike??? All it means is that the STEPS area is better struck...the rest of the coin could be crapola. So, no, I have to disagree that it means a BETTER strike.

 

ya but it does mean that the stairs are a better struck which is what i agree with but it should help the grade a lil but not much in my opinion

 

I'm with you 150%! I think they should do away with all of those meaningless designations. I just couldn't resist having a little fun with redwin117.

Chris

 

Beryllium was not used in making SBAs. An SBA is a cupro-nickel clad coin exactly like any other modern clad coin - copper and nickel.

 

Excuse my knowledge base on the subject but was 1999 the only proofs made and were they 40% silver? Were any of the SBA issues silver? I wonder if the US Mint has a stockpile of the SBA's as well?

 

The Red Book only mentions the CuNi composition, so I can only assume that none were struck in silver.

Chris