$1 with offset mint seal

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by PezDspncr, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    No, there is not a fourth printing. Although these elements are both applied during the third printing, the machine does not apply them at the same time as the sheet passes through the machine. Numbers explained it all in a different discussion about the same type of error.

    Go and read this post http://www.cointalk.com/t165783/

    I dismissed this type of "error" as post BEP also until educated by Numbers post in the earlier thread. While this explains how this is possible, it does not mean that this could not be faked post-BEP.
     
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  3. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Unfortunately, no one is going to be able to authenticate without having the note in hand. It is too easy to duplicate this in the home.
     
  4. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    The last place I would bring it is your neighborhood coin dealer. Most coin dealers know little about paper money, much less how to determine whether it is an error.

    I don't know what part of Southern California you are in, but you may want to wait until the Long Beach Coin Show. Many paper money dealers attend that show. One of the paper money grading services may also attend the show. You would be better served with one (or more)of their opinions.
     
  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    +1
     
  6. PezDspncr

    PezDspncr Newly Obsessed

    yep....planning to take it there. Already have my $2 off admission coupon printed :D Thanks for the info guys!
     
  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Please let us know the end result. I don't like being proven wrong, but in this case, I'm actually hoping for it.
     
  8. PezDspncr

    PezDspncr Newly Obsessed

    So I took it to a local shop (Huntington Beach Coin Exchange) today and the guy behind the counter said it's "definately real". I'm still planning to take it to the Long Beach Coin Show in September as well.
     
  9. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    American or Lafayette? lol

    I could never decide which was best lol
     
  10. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I know nothing about rare and error currency notes. However, I'd say this is real because the seal in question, is overlapped by the Treasurer's signature. I don't see how that could be accomplished post mint.
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the treasury seal and the signatures are
    both a part of the third printing, both printed at the same time.
    Therefor, the signatures and the seal cannot overlap, making me believe that the note is fake error.
     
  12. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    If the seal were in the normal place?

    However it is not. Isn't the seal printed in a separate step from the signatures?

    If someone faked this, they would have had to remove the signature of the Treasurer, move the seal down, then replace the signature, overlapping the seal. How is that possible post mint?
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The fake seal is printed over the genuine signature.
     
  14. PezDspncr

    PezDspncr Newly Obsessed

    I'd say they are not printed at the same time or the following would not be possible either.

    http://currency.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3514&lotNo=&lotIdNo=46018&ts=off#Photo
     
  15. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

  16. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Read the following:
     
  17. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    If that were the case, then the seal would overlap the signature.

    If you look at the image, the signature overlaps the seal.

    Sorry but your explanation is not plausible.
     
  18. PezDspncr

    PezDspncr Newly Obsessed

    here we go...took a while of searching on HA but finally found one graded like mine.

    http://currency.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3508&lotNo=14241


     
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