Ebay Unsearched Rolls?

Whats your thoughts or opinions on these type of listings, Wheat cents, Buffalo Nickels, Etc,Etc,Etc. Including the listings were there is a V-nickel or Sheild nickel end. Just curious.

 

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yes, unsearched by Human hands

 

99% are bollocks

Especially the ones with a shield nickel end or seated dime. I bought one with a 1909 IHC end (don't remember if they claimed it was unsearched though) and when I got it the IHC was on the sealed end of the roll...the other end was wide open.

There is only a couple that I believe the unsearched thing. I know one guy I've bought from a couple times who has a hoard...with pictures to prove....of over 1.25 million wheats and does a couple thousand transactions a month. Now if he is actually able to search all them before shipping he is a robot. Plus I've never lost money with him because he throws in a couple silver coins and other collectibles to offset if you don't get any good wheats. I've read his feedback and saw people claiming to have found 1909 VDB, 1909-S VDB and other key dates. Obviously thats not proof but it helps I guess lol

 

Bollocks! I say!

99.99% are rerolls- searched and seeded. Stick a flying eagle or an Indian head on the end and watch the prices skyrocket. Save your cash, pick up rolls at the bank or grocery stores at face.

 

Thats what I've decided to do, Just picked up a box of Nickels. Just wish I could fined more Buffalo's, Anybody selling any?

 

Place an ad in the "wanteds" here on Coin Talk.

 

Oh yeah thanks.

 

I personally belive that with the price tag on some pennies, there is practically no way sellers haven't gone through them looking for those rarer dates. You always see them claim to not know anything about lincoln cents and at the same time they will be selling rarer dates seperately and claiming that they know some of them could be very valueable. I also see the vdbs on the outside of the roll, is it a 09 s vdb? Is it a complete roll of bu 09 vdbs? Not likely IMHO, it probably has nothing else worth much in it but just happens to have these coins on the ends that make it sell for high prices. I have bought a few rolls on Ebay but I just accept the fact that coins have been in circulation for so long and are worth so much, if I really want a coin I buy it seperately.

 

When I first started collecting I got sucked into the Ebay wheat penny roll thing. Got a few decent ones but the others were nothing to write home about. The last roll I ever bought was a roll of buffalos with a dated shield nickel on the end. This specific date put the value of the nickel at around what I was paying for the whole roll, so I figured what the heck, why not. Well, the roll I received had a no-date shield nickel on the end. I was a bit peeved because I thought it was slightly dishonest of the seller to do that. Oh well, lesson learned. I don't buy any rolls on Ebay now, period !

 

SO they claimed it was a specific date, probably rarer date, nickel and it turned out to be a no date nickel? That is messed up but I can't say it surprises me at all. Anything to make a buck.

 

Be better off saving your money and buy a nice coin at your local coin shop
Sandy

 

Unsearched? That's just one of the reasons it is called SleazeBay.

Chris

 

They were all in another roll that was searched, then re-rolled specifically for the auction/BIN on eBay.

 

Ebay "unsearched rolls" is usually about as truthful as "military intelligence".

I am a war vet guys, I hope I am allowed to make fun of the military, no hate here.

 

The chances of a roll having been unsearched are nil. Very few of these are original rolls, and even the ones with original wrappers have been opened and re-rolled. Just look at the pictures.

However, this is not to say that you can't find something good in an "unsearched" roll. They are usually (sometines) seeded with something halfway desirable. I have bought rolls with 1870's dated IHC on the end, also one roll with an S-Mint IHC showing (it was a 1908). I have gotten all the 1910's S-Mint Lincoln from these types of rolls.

The trick is to buy only if what is showing on the end(s) is something you need, want or can use in some way. Pay for what that is worth, plus a couple of bucks for the filler inside the roll.

 

+1

This is what I do if I try to get one. I got a roll one time with a 1909 IHC showing. When I got the roll the 1909 was in F+ condition. And turned out the roll also had an 1865 IHC and a couple AU/BU wheats. I payed about $19 for the roll and more than made my money back on it

 

There are NO unsearched lots on eBay.
It is a fantasy that buyers allow themselves to be sucked into.

I have checked the completed auctions of some of the bigger sellers of "unsearched" rolls, and found where they bought rolling machines and old unused coin wrappers! You will also usually find that the roll sellers regularly buy 'searched' bulk bags of wheats to fill those "old, unsearched original bank rolls". Pretty easy stuff to dig up from plain sight if you try.

I love the auctions that are selling "wheat rolls", but the seller points out that the ends of the roll are IHCs!
If the rolls are truely unsearched, why would the seller not naturally assume it was a roll of IHCs? Hmmmm...

You can tell when they are getting desperate too... all the sudden you have rolls of wheat cents, but... hey, it just happens to have a Barber dime showing on one end, and an IHC on the other... Lol... I'm sure that happened ALL the time with bank rolls in the 1920s!

 

i also agree with rolls being searched at some point on ebay but i buy rolls of wheats often and have had a couple rolls that turned out much better then others. ive gotten one roll that had 7 teens 3 IH's many 20's and very few 40's and 50's which costed me about $12 and i was happy with that turn out. guess its just luck of the draw. i am very happy the day my $80 impulse bid on a roll with 1909 vdb's on each end whent over 80 bucks tho =]. i would not recommend buying any roll of wheats from ebay over 15bucks unless you need the end kicker and is worth it

 

Oh, and there was a seller that somehow had a 'semi-key' showing on one end of each of his rolls...
I searched his recent eBay purchases, and what did I see but individual purchases of culls of each of those exact dates that were on the ends of his rolls! He ways paying a few bux apiece for the culls, then telling folks about them being on the ends, and the bids for the rolls were going through the roof, many times the amount he paid for the AG semi-key. Salting the rolls like this keeps feedback high and perpetuates the illusion that the rolls are unsearched.

 

I have only bought two rolls on ebay and I stayed away from the sellers who planted coins on the end. The first purchase was a guy who had less than ten coin sales posted who had started that they were passed on to him from a family member. He had excellent feedback from the other coins that sold and the roll was around $3 plus shipping. I pulled out several teens (incl. a 1914P and 1919S), and several 20s and 30s as well as 41S and 44S. It filled a few of my slots and I was pleased because I have an overabundance of most dates in the 50s from roll searching LMC. The 2nd roll is on its way and was around $8 but I was bored and just really wanted to play with some wheaties I don't believe any are truly unsearched, but are you hoping to hit the jackpot or just enjoy some nice old coins? There is a lot of good advice above that I agree with. Don't take a big risk expecting a major key date or MS coins but have fun and try out a seller whom you've done your homework on if you want to try it. The guy with the big barrel overflowing with cents looks fun to try IMO and his buyers state there have been a lot of IH in there too but who knows if they are handpicked and they look kinda rough condition wise. Let us know if you give one a try and please post your results! I will let you know how my new roll pans out when it gets here this weekend