Lincoln wheat Cent 19-- d Ghost image of Abraham

The only thing anyone will see on this is PMD. Post. Mint. Damage. Despite your wide array of pics at different angles, mirroring, overlays, and any other effect. Its just PMD. While it may not have any importance for any of us, it obviously has importance to you, so my advice would be to keep it as a cool coin you found and leave it at that.

Also I would advise you read the forum rules, especially on creating multiple threads and overposting. While we appreciate your enthusiasm and eagerness to share your coin and your enjoyment of this hobby, creating multiple threads and posting over and over in a thread in a row is against the rules and we don't wanna see you end up getting in trouble. Just take the advice and opinions you've been given, there are A LOT of people on here that are true experts more than you know, so their advice can be taken and trusted.

And with that...


I think this thread just might have to be closed...this seems to be getting out of hand.

Help me DesertGem, you're my only hope :dead-horse:

 

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Casper ? Next it will be Gremlins ? All I see is a well worn damaged coin

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

 

The coin appears to be a coin that was found outside, then harshly cleaned and you can see the pit marks on the reverse. The eyes make someone think there is something there, kind of a connect the dots thing.

 

j, I don't think it's a 1919-d, in the posts below you he shows wheatie at an angle which I believe you can see the date of 1939-d. I do agree that this coin has no value other then what the melt is going for copper. I agree with the favor your asked and definitely will help him out!

 

You would have to see my other post to understand. I like the picture of the troll though.

 

I believe it was a Gremlin...ya know? like from Gremlins?

 

ther way

pretty fitting either way!

 

100% of poeple who have handled it see the same thing as I am seeing. The possible two strikes wich there is evidence of line up 98% with the ''corrosion marks'' of the reverse i.e. overlay the reverse with 50% occupancy then move the image east until it lines up with the wheat leaf pattern i.e. ''corrosion marks''

(question; do you see how the wheat stalk pattern lines up with the dammage pattern? in fact the damage pattern has more detail then the struck one).

 

Jral1, let me follow your reasoning and explain why it couldn't be 2 strikes. If you look at a normal Lincoln cent, notice that on each side of Lincoln's head there is a flattened part ( such as where a date is located). The flattened part( field) is produced by the die that has a extending surface compared with the inclused ( more hollowed) part of the die where Lincoln's head is, so when the die strikes the metal, the field part pushed the metal down and near the hollowed part pushes the metal up into the die's head depression, producing the raised head on the cent.

Looking at how you imaged the possible overlap, notice that no mater which coin was "struck" first, there is a field overlapping the other head, and would flatten it also. If your supposition occurred, there would be 2 flattened heads , rather than just the "ghost". The rim of the coin would also be very visible, and there is no sign of it. You can't just pick certain areas of a die to be a second strike, the whole enclosed area would be impressed. Hope I explained it OK.

If you ask me if I can see the "ghost" image ~ yes I do.
If you ask if it is how you suppose ~ No it isn't, it is mixed corrosion, wear, and pmd.
What is worth to someone ~ probably about 3 cent.
Could I be wrong? ~ sure,we all could, but to prove your point, you will need to get it authenticated.

Jim

 

I added a third overlay just for effect I was not implying that there was a third strike or third image on this plane. Is this the image you were talking about ?

 

so the recess of the design(Abe's head) and the profile around are the hardest struck area of the coin right with the most amount of metal flow i.e. more metal flow equals more distortion of any design pre struck on the coin. Notice how the S of TRUST is a little destorted where the rim parttern(would be) of the pre stike located at the north northwest of center! The field pattern of Abraham would surly destroy evidence of the rim, the word pattern LIBERTY, and anyother design that might be there!

 

You have now had 12 people tell you the coin is worth 2.7¢ and you have chosen not to believe them. I am not sure how many it is going to take for you to believe the first, so go sell it for what you think it is worth. Good luck!

 

I didnt ask you I ask coin talk members as a whole.
what is worth to somone? Who am I to say.
So you think its worth copper value only?

 

I think it's a cull, that I've found probably around 100 similar wheat cents, and that I'd sell you those wheat cents for $0.50 each any day of the week.

Dead serious, all the double-struck impacted rim erased ghost Lincoln wheat cents you want for $0.50 each.

 

I belive them and you. I am aware of the price of copper but isnt it illegal to sell it for metal content? I not trying to sell unless someone has more intrest in it than me. If nothing else at least I as able to show you some pics of this neat cent.

 

It's not illegal to sell it for it's metal content, no.

Melting, well... arguable, but the law says yes.

 

I want to see! Do you have pictures or can you take some. Did you just find them recentally'' or did you look through ones you already had? 0.50$ Sounds cheap enough to me!!!! lol

 

It isn't worth my time to take pictures of them.