commemorative fake

I recently bought two commemorative coins (sesquicentennial and stone mountain) that I saw were fake once I saw them at home. Do the counterfeit laws apply to these?

 

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Yes they are US Legal tender coins are they are illegal to counterfeit here in the US just like any other US coin.

 

If you purchased them on EBAY, return them before your time runs out. In the future, I would suggest you not make any purchases until you become more learned in numismatics and by all means don't hesitate to ask here or any other forum about authenticity.

 

Out of curiosity, what made you realize that they were fake?

 

I'd like to know that as well New. Could you post pics so we can take a look at them? Maybe we can all learn something from your bad experience. Thanks.

Bruce

 

My main clue was the fuzziness of the detail. The other clue was not coin related. Three coins were shown for sale at the same time. (The third was a Columbus medal not a commemorative). It looked like a good deal, but was too good to be true. I am more guilty of wanting a good deal to be true than not knowing what is best. I should not of considered the coins because returns were not accepted. I decided to try though because some items on EBay are sold by people who are selling things to make ends meet. These are all no returns accepted, and I bought my prize medal (So Called Dollar HK-20 in the case) through this method. I have learned to look at all the person has to sell and to be more wary of deals that are too good to be true. I will put in a complaint to EBay and maybe even suggest they contact the authorities. These scam artists are what makes EBay a dangerous place sometimes. The only way to learn is by trying a few things and learn from each transaction.

 

reless of weher they say "no returns" you can file a SNAD claim with paypal and Ebay. Contact the seller first and express your concerns. they may give a refund just to avoid the hassle.

 

Well I've been guilty of that myself, of course the lesson is to think it thru completely which I'm sure you now know. Any pics?

 

If you bought them through eBay and they were counterfeit, you absolutely can get you money back. Read their EBAY BUYER PROTECTION http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html. "eBay Buyer Protection covers items purchased on eBay with eligible payment methods that are not received or not as described in the listing." There is no exclusion for returns not excepted.

 

This is what was shown on EBay. Comparing the Sesquicentennial coin to others, I can clearly see differences now.

 

I will place in a complaint as soon as people here confirm what I think is true. The EBay picture has been posted.

 

Here are the threads in which I detailed my eBay-counterfeit experience:

eBay rip of the month? 1920-S Walker...

Follow-up: that fake 1920-S Walker from eBay

Here's the text I included when I opened the case with eBay:

...but then, I tend to be long-winded. A simple "the coins are counterfeit, I'd like a full refund" will probably do, although if you have firm evidence (they stick to a magnet, they're the wrong weight) it might be helpful.

 

Is there any way you can post close ups of both sides? Personally, I am not seeing anything designating them as counterfeit or copy. All three appear to be commemorative half dollar coins from best I can tell.
Chuck

 

I think you need to post photos of the actual coins you received so we can compare them to the eBay pic (in which the coins appear to be genuine ).

 

Compare the foreheads of this PCGS graded coin to the one posted before. The real one slopes back more. Also Washington's head has a different overall shape. I have yet to get a camera shot onto my computer so this is the best I can do.

 

I was just thinking that if you got a great deal on them, it would be a shame to return them if they are in fact genuine. It might just be me, but I'm not seeing any red flags. Maybe there are some Commem specialty members that can help more.

If I am ever in doubt on a silver coin, I always weigh them. As a matter of fact I weigh every silver coin I ever buy.

jloring made a excellent point. The eBay picture may not be the same coins that you received.

 

What would be the correct weight for this coin? I have a gram scale now and can find out quickly.

 

12.50 grams, but with it being worn, it might show 12.1 or so.

 

I am surprised they are all 12.5. So the question is are some of the coins struck in this time frame struck with less detail. It could also be possible that the Stone Mountain one was cleaned. It looks too clean to be of that age.

Also if a coin has been dipped would some of the detail be lost?

 

The chances of them being genuine just went up about 80%. Most all copies will not get that close without a variance in the thickness of the coin, and the chances of them doing that as well is slim.

Get another take from another member here, but I'll bet they are the real deal.

Chuck