1909-P and 1909-P vdb

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Jon4485, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    hey guys i recently purchased 15 1909 vdb cents on ebay for a mere 17$ a piece i tried to pick the one i thought was the best and picked one that the was actually missing the vdb that the seller didn't mean to be in there. I really wanted to know grade and values so input is appreciated. here are the pics

    1909 vdb Obverse:
    http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx131/jon4485/CIMG2610.jpg

    1909 vdb Reverse:
    http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx131/jon4485/CIMG2611.jpg


    1909-P Obverse:
    http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx131/jon4485/CIMG2615.jpg

    1909-P Reverse:
    http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx131/jon4485/CIMG2617.jpg

    i'm hoping my pictures are good enough to determine grade if not i may try again.
     
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  3. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    50 views no reply? well... any help will be appreciated : )
     
  4. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    wait, so both of those coins u got for $17 dollars PLUS 13 other coins (VDB and 1909-p)?????
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The VDB I would make out to be 64RB. Uncertified, that should be about $30.

    The plain looks to be a nice 64 red or maybe better. That might make $40 - $60.
     
  6. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    i got all 15 coins at 17$ a piece


    Thanks rlm's cents i was wondering if the 1909-P no vdb would be worth more
     
  7. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    Mintage for 1909 VDB: 27,995,000. Mintage for 1909: 72,702,618
     
  8. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    i'm sure those numbers are right but i think you see alot more 1909 vdbs in ms condition than the 1909-P no vdb . On ebay i only see a handful of 1909-P 's in ms grades while there are tons of ms 1909 vdb's for sale. I'm guessing less people cared about the 1909-P no vdb because there were so many and less got kept in mint state condition. correct me if i may be wrong but it's just a thought
     
  9. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    I will second what RLM said!
     
  10. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    hmm i hope it is my pics cuz in hand the first coin looks full red :/
     
  11. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Color like that is the hardest thing to determine from a picture particularly a picture that you are not familiar with taker's color techniques. That is the main reason I do not put color in the "guess the grade" surveys. That being said, yes, it still looks RB but you have the coin in had.
     
  13. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    Well put, Thanks for your help.
     
  14. jerryb

    jerryb Member

    I'd also say RB and add a possible (if in hand) 65 in both. Pretty hard to grade a picture, even if it is a high quality picture. Overall nice coins to own. :smile
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    The VDB's are generally easier to find in MS is because they were widely hoarded.

    The posted coins look like MS-63/64, $47-$114 in full red, depending on grade. From your second picture, they look to be RB which reduces the value. The no VDB is worth less, you kinda got ripped on that coin since the seller tossed it into a "VDB" roll, but at least it's a nice looking 09 so at $17 you're OK. Basically you paid less than MS60 CDN prices so I'd say you did alright as long as all the coins are MS.
     
  16. Jon4485

    Jon4485 Junior Member

    well i guess we will see how much this 09 no vdb is worth since i'll probably put it up for auction the seller did send me an extra 09 vdb once i told them there was a regular 09 in the bunch. The coin they sent me though was slabbed by some knock off company and graded ms 68 LOL. I would say its an au or pretty low bu at best XD Any ways most of the coins the person sent me were pretty nice only 1 i found was cleaned but the others make up for it :)
     
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