Robert Hughes I have had issues as well. I am in the midst of a year of unreturned emails and calls regarding some problem purchases. He never responded to my emails, then when I spke to him on the phone he told me he would follow up twice, but so far not a single reply. I will let you know the outcome. Also, in general, eBay is TERRIBLE at policing their site. I see shill bidding all the time. I see bids from those with zero feedback, fake items, counterfeit items, obvious rip-off items and more and when I complained about these issues, eBay has done nothing significant. The Sellers are still cheating their customers. I could give you dozens of examples just within the coin/currency world, such as people selling 1922 No D cents that aren't, US trial coins that are actually toys, reprints of currency sold as certified for hundreds of dollars more than any possible value and of course, rolls of 'unsearched' coins. I can only hope that eventually eBay will be called to task on this by the government for what amounts to a clear intent to allow fraud on their site.
Interesting how they come out of the woodwork, make 1 post, and it happens to be on this particular thread.
He's at a lot of shows, buttom-hole him there. Complain to the ANA, NGC or PCGS. If all else fails, have a lawyer write a letter to him. It bugs me when businsesses like this clam up.
Good luck with that. Might as well shut down the entire numismatic industry, because bricks and mortar sellers cheat their customers too. All the time.
Proving the use of shill bidders is about impossible. Considering how many times I put in low bids on a couple of sellers high grade coins you could call me shill bidder. My father use to do the same thing. I did it more on bullion coins, but it was fun to try to beat the best price with shipping. Now a days I really do not concern myself with this - I determine what I am willing to pay, place the bid and then forget it. If I win great - if not there will be another one eventually. As for B&M cheating people - I am sure there are a few that do, but I believe most are honest.
Document the fraud; provide the provable information to the attorney general in your state. If you do not have specific proof, call the attorney general any way. You can also call your state and federal representatives on the issue and they may be able to address the issue.
Just curious - with all the thousands of coins on eBay at any one time, how do you know "...most of them have a ton of bids on only his coins."? Also I got the impression because I had only one post on this particular thread that I was somehow a shill. Actually I check out Google for complaints on most any vendor with whom I am not familiar. I had never even heard of this site previous to that day in June. Anyway on June 5 I was googling "Chlorophyl(l)" and somehow it ended up on "neyronix." So out of curiosity I followed up on a hit that asked if anyone had ever purchased from him. I have purchased a few things from him on eBay including a 1893 S Morgan (a bid I won) and one item we negotiated over the phone - a 1895 S Morgan. So as you can imagine I have spent some serious money with him. All I related was my experiences were good and where to find him. Perhaps when I have some free time I can follow more of the threads and contribute more. I did find the thread about recent purchases members had made to be interesting. I hope everyone out there has a fabulous day! You're only as happy as you let yourself be.:hail: tommid (not a shill)
All I can say is he is one of the few sellers that I have put a block on in my eBay searches. Service was so so on the few purchases made and prices were high to get what I wanted.
Mark, what you described is low balling, not shilling. I do this frequently as well. However, we both would be ecstatic to actually win a bid at these low prices and we would compete such transactions. A shill bidder would not because they never intend to complete a transaction. Their sole purpose is to extract the most from bidders via auction fever. The solution for the buyer is to never bid more than you would gladly be willing to pay. But it is deceptive and against eBays stated policy. If eBay looks the other way, it is their risk of cooking the goose that lays it's gold eggs.
this. i work at a place..you won't believe how many people DON'T come to our establishment. I'd give em a whirl. Jus me.
Yeah - but if it stays low enough I might bid a second time. Just to see - you can't tell the difference. I just did this on heritage on a coin that closed close to 2k. I bid twice just to see if I would still be high at both $100 and $200. I stayed high until about the last week.
<<But it is deceptive and against eBays stated policy. If eBay looks the other way, it is their risk of cooking the goose that lays it's gold eggs. >> The thing most may miss is that eBay makes more money on the final value fees when auctions sell for more. They probably see this as a double edged sword and are hoping the edge facing them is dull. It's all about the profits and they want thier's.
I bought a 1795 $1 flowing hair from him at a coin show at a great price and has continued to buy from him since and will continue to buy from him in the unforseen future, extremely fair. 2011snopy6363
A couple of years ago I bought a coin from this guy and had no problem whatsoever. That was back when I first started buying on Ebay. Right after I paid, a friend mentioned to me about checking a sellers feedback score. I didn't know what that was. So I learned what is was, checked out the seller and worried for a few days thinking I really goofed up. But, got the coin, it was great and I was happy. Now though, I wouldn't buy from them. I may have just gotten lucky that first time.
Sometimes I like bidding on coins when the seller has a few negatives. It usually means I can get the coin at a lower price because some buyers may pass on that seller. thats how I get good deals. and if you don't receive what you paid for, you just open a case with paypal. the only time I have ever had to open a case with paypal is for items I never received. that usually happens when the ending price is to low. but I have gotten some great deals.
Maybe it was posted here and I missed it, but in case not.... I read somewhere, that his account had been (at least temporarily) suspended, due to shill bidding. And from what I have seen, it was well deserved. It appears that he hasn't had anything listed/sold on Ebay for weeks.
I read that also Mark. His account was "limited" to Buy It Now for a while. Maybe it was suspended all together? I remember reading that post also, over on NGC about 2 months ago (http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=41&Number=5127359). As someone pointed out there; it's likely this seller will "pop back up" on eBay with yet another seller name though. Unreported (or ignored) shill-bidding is profitable for eBay, as they take a cut of the final sale...
I occasionally put in a low bid on a coin just so that it appears on my bid list. My watch list has become very large because adding it there is the only way for me to tag it with the variety attribution. But I guarantee that I'd be thrilled to get any coin at my bid with which I've done this.
WARNING!!!!! Robert Hughes AKA RLH Enterprises is a slick thief. Do not do business with him .I consigned a number of rare gold coins to him . He sold them. He sent me a small payment and then pocketed the bulk of the money.He will not respond to email or telephone calls. He has pulled this on others. I cannot believe my stupidity. After the fact I see he has had 3 different coin businesses all at the same Malibu address.He needs to be jailed for grand theft and fraud. I will be pursuing this guy with the authorities. BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE !!!!!!!!!!!!