Rare Valerian II Ant questions and My first Roman Republic Denarius

Okay so I won this Silver Antoninianus of Valerian II, it was being sold as of Valerian I, it is Valerian II right?

I hope someone can clear this up for me, I am pretty sure it is Valerian II due to the portrait and titles... but would like some confirmation, also I am wondering about what mint this is from, anyone know? Also notice between the 'P' and 'F' in the titles are dots, two of them.
So any info at all on this coin would be helpful, thanks.

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Roman Empire
Valerian II

obv: VALERIANUVS P. F. AUG - Radiate bust right, draped and cuirassed. Seen from the front.
rev: ORIENS AVGG - Sol, radiate, walking left holding whip and raising right hand.

3.5 grams, 21mm.
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As for my first Roman Republic coin, it's low grade but I really like the obverse with Roma wearing a corinthian helmet pushed upwards on top of her head, in the style of some earlier Greek coins I have seen from Corinth and Syracuse. Also the reverse is very cool, sadly the front of the she-wolf is off the flan, let me know what ya'll think.

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Roman Republic
Anonymous Issue Silver Denarius of 115 - 114 BC.
Rome Mint. 20.59mm, 3.35g.
obv: Head of Roma right wearing Corinthian Helmet pushed up.
rev: Roma seated on a pile of shields holding spear, helmet below. She-wolf and twins before. Flying birds in fields.

Syd. 530.
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My main goal of this thread is to find out more about the Valerian II coin, and to make sure that it is of Valerian II.......

 

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Nice coin, but from my research, V II never had Sol reverse, that was daddy. But due to the portrait, is it possible its from a scarce mint or something?

 

Beats me.... just the young portrait and titles lead me to believe it to be Valerian II.

*But now after looking at wildwinds I cant find any like this listed for Valerian II either... however I can find a very similar few with the same titles as mine of Valerian I so it may be Valerian I, shucks... and I really wanted a Valerian II also, the young portrait s deceptive, but I really like the portrait and the dots between the letters and the reverse and the whole coin, so whomever it is, I am happy with it.... but I do want a Valerian II for my collection.

 

Attribution as this one: http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=118678

 

While I agree it looks young, Valerian II was Caesar but not Augustus so we have to call this one granddad.

 

Ah, well thats a definitive answer, thanks doug, any guess as to mint? Some of the examples of this one that I found on wildwinds said Lyons, but the link from Ardatirion says Cologne..... any ideas on that anyone?

 

FYI - the coin I linked to should be identical to yours. The Wildwinds specimen apparently follows RIC V, citing Lugdunum (Lyons). But MIR is a much more up to date reference. Whats more, it gives not only mints, but struck dates for the issues - and its still available.

http://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/products/S....html?XTCsid=92570a993c0a21c3864dfe5139f85449

 

Yeah, thanks Ardatirion, your link was quite helpful. I think the coin in the link you sent even has the dots between the 'P' and 'F' in the obv titles. I think mine is from Lyons though, looking at Mat's specimen which is from Cologne, it says, it looks quite different, the lettering and style. However the coin in your link, the lettering in the titles looks quite similar to mine.... I still can't be sure.... I'm not very good with Valerian/Gallienus/Salonina mints.

Hope you don't mind me linking to your coin Mat:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3303&pos=34


Looks like a good book.... a bit pricey....

 

Rex, you're missing one important detail. Mat and I are talking about the same mint! Gobl, the author of MIR, places it at Cologne, but the authors of RIC V place it at Lyons.

And actually, $200 or so for a good, scholarly work like this is not bad at all. It will only get more expensive when they stop printing it.

 

Not bad at all like you said Ardatirion. I would wonder if it would ever usurp RIC for attribution numbers.

Is this a set like RIC? How many are in print? Will it be complete? I always hate incomplete sets, since many never get finished. I have RCBMC and it stops in the 200's. I have purchased all of the Austrian/French set of Sassanid but they published two volumes so far and that has been at least 5 years since a new one.

 

I think the day of 'complete books' has passed. RIC was not a single set of books since there were several authors over a long period and the differences between the volumes make one wonder if they read each other's works. Gobl wrote several things including a little book on Sasanian which I didn't find terribly valuable but this was a stand alone book on several emperors of that general period but without claim that it was part of a proposed complete set. There is no one today remotely capable of writing a set of books and the time to do it in a 'right' way would take over a lifetime so I suspect we will see more stand alone works and hope the things of interest to us make someone's 'to do' list.

 

To me, the one person who was capable of putting together an inclusive Roman set is David Sear, and he should have his set finished soon.

I like stand alone volumes, like Sellwood's Parthian, (hate that stupid font though), Byzantine Coins, Coinage in the name of Alexander the Great, etc, but also appreciate complete sets of larger series. I guess my "poster child" for such a set done well is Dumbarton Oaks for Byzantine. RIC is ok, but like you said Doug way too inconsistent. I do not even care if they had made a poor organization decision, but should have at least followed it for all volumes.

 

Ideally, I like to cite three references for each coin. A general reference (RIC, Sear Byzantine, etc), a specialized reference (die study, study of the denomination), and a museum collection (DOC, BN, BMC). Many of the works can straddle these groups - DOC is a specialized work, but also a museum collection; Bopearachchi's book on Baktrian Greek is a general catalog, but also the collection of the BN.

Medoraman - this is a complete set in the same way RIC was in 1975. Some volumes are more up to date and useful than others. The new one on Trajan just came out in December 2010 and, honestly, its one of the finest numismatic books I've ever had the pleasure of using.

 

So what collection is MIR using as a source, or is it all coins? Who is the primary sponsor of the publication?

You mention Gobl, but this isn't the same Gobl who did Sassanian coins is it? He passed I know. Are the volumes in English?

 

http://epub.oeaw.ac.at/2923-3

German; Austrian Academy of Sciences Press