1791 Washington Cent - Large Eagle

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  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    1791 Washington Cent - Small Eagle

    Heya everybody,

    Just wanted to share another addition to my Washington collection. It's in a PCGS holder as genuine, so the scratches are not on the coin itself :smile

    Let me know what you think!

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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Neat coin! I'll wager that coin is worth more raw, and to me, that's a sign of a good purchase.
     
  4. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    ...Being slabbed genuine means the coin isn't gradable, which can certainly be due to scratches on the coin...

    In other words, the genuine label doesn't mean the scratches are definitely on the slab, as your post infers.

    Nice... coin, medal whatever. I like it. :)
     
  5. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Thank you Leadfoot, I agree. And Merc, I know. I have the coin in hand and I can tell where the scratches are, thanks though. I'll crack it open later, but yes, this was a killer purchase :D
     
  6. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I love it, I think it's a great coin problems or not. I would probably keep it in the slab...as it shows authenticity of a rarer coin. If you don't mind me asking...what is the PCGS reason for the genuine slab for this coin? My thought would be questionable color.
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Super Sweet!!
    Great for any collection!
     
  8. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Do you see the very light/faint pitting on the obverse at 10 o'clock? My guess would be that, as for the coloring, that would be the camera and lighting :) but yes, a rare and incredible piece of history!

     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    The serial number holds the information that will tell you why the coin did not grade. Look at the serial number. It should look something like this: XXXX.YY/ZZZZZZZZ. The "Y's" in my example is the PCGS problem code, it's a 2 digit number just before the slash. Here are the numbers and what they stand for:

    91 Artificially Colored
    92 Cleaned
    93 Planchet (Coin Blank) Flaw
    94 Altered Surface
    95 Scratched or Rim Dented
    97 Environmentally Damaged
    98 Other Damage

    For example, I have a 1854 $1 gold piece my grandma gave me. I knew it had a problem but I wanted it slabbed anyway. The coin has a slight bend in it. It came back in a Genuine slab (as I expected) with a 98 code.
     
  10. coinmandan

    coinmandan New Member

    Very nice addition to your collection. Party ON
     
  11. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Wow, thank you I never knew that. It's a 97, which I am kind of glad for, since I wouldn't want any artificial coloring or altered surfaces, along with with being dented or scratched! So I guess I was right with the light pitting, but that happens to colonial's!

    Thank you again!

     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    No problem...IMHO, that is the "best" of the codes for coins like this. These coins are so old, it's hard to imagine any survive without a little pitting (I know they do, but it's amazing). I would personally leave the coin in the slab.
     
  13. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Well it's also the only "natural" one that can happen, so there's a bright side. And yes a smooth surfaced copper from the earlier times is hard to come by, though I do have quite a few! Anyway, this piece is beautiful and I am mesmerized by the reverse design, it's just beautiful. I want to try and get the large eagle next :)

    Edit: I just realized I messed up on the title; this is the small eagle, not the large!

     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice pickup Ryan.
     
  15. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    nice piece. havent seen anything like that at a show.
     
  16. Trust

    Trust Young Numismatist Since 2011

    I dont know if this is to personal,but how much did you get it for?
     
  17. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Is this made out of copper or some other metal? I know with the old copper it really comes down to eye appeal. So old cleanings which have retoned, even if artificially retoned, are not that big a detraction. Things like environmental damage really depends on the degree, which your is very mild.

    Overall it a very nice piece, and I agree probably worth more raw then slabbed.
     
  18. phdunay

    phdunay Member

    Wow, that is in really nice condition
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Conder token from Middlesex, D&H 1050 or 1050a depending on the edge inscription. It is most likely the 1050. And Beef1020, it's copper. These were believed to have been struck as a proposed model for a contract coinage for the United States. I'm not sure but I believe the dies were engraved by John G Hancock Sr of Birmingham. I don't know the manufacturer at the moment but if I did some searching and cross referencing I could probably figure it out.
     
  20. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Thanks for answering those questions! These coppers are very interesting and have history written all over them.
     
  21. Taylor101

    Taylor101 New Member

    Nice PIckup...
     
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