Regrade question?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jimmy-bones, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. phdunay

    phdunay Member

    IMO, there is a difference, if you look at the picture, the coin appears to have been scratched or something where there is no haze, you can see the true color much more clearly, I think the haze and the toning may have occurred at the same time and you may not be able to have one without the other in the conditions that the coin was kept in, if that is what you are trying to say.
     
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  3. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    If it is presently graded 64, I doubt their is 50/50 chance it comes back as a 65...it might well get a 63....that would be a disastor ! I think the odds are greater of it coming back as a 63 than as a 65. No chance of 66, little chance of 62. If it currently says 64, keep it that way !
     
  4. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I'm gonna guess it's a 63 PL at best. Those hits on the face are pretty rough.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well, haze is nothing but the beginning stages of toning anyway. But more importantly than that, what is called haze almost never occurs on a business strike coin. It only occurs on Proof coins.

    But I'll grant you, since the coin is PL that bluish toning does resemble what haze looks like on a Proof. But in this case what you have there is what is more commonly referred to as a "frosty" Morgan. And "frosty" Morgans looked that way fresh from the mint. But the "frosty" look has gone beyond the normal whitish frosted look and turned bluish because of the toning.
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I think you've had enough honest opinions. How about showing us the whole slab?

    Chris
     
  7. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    I think MS63 at best too, way too many marks on obverse. Reverse look like 65 or higher.
     
  8. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    I won't bother to resubmit, there isn't much difference in price between MS62- MS64. MS65 have big jump in price, but there is no way it will grade MS65. I think people prefer it in original GSA holder
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I agree with all those that said 64 is the max, but like others I put it at 63 from the pictures which maybe hiding other hits. Save your money because I also agree with those that say 65 is out of the question.
     
  10. jimmy-bones

    jimmy-bones Senior Member

    First off, thank you all. Just about all of you confirmed my original thoughts that the coin was undergraded; and if I ever plan on selling my raw coins, I'll be sure to offer them here. :D ...most of the grade estimates were more agressive than my standards.

    NGC assigned a 62PL grade to this coin. When I purchased it in 2007, I though it was a dead ringer for a 63 DPL. Values for GSAs tend to jump quite a bit for DPL Morgans in GSA holders, and they even jump between grades, more so than non-GSA Morgans. This one IMO should at least see 63PL; and that price jump would more than cover the grading fee. Heck, I still think it could go DPL, based on the refelctive distance test.

    The blue coloring you are seeing, is really just my camera and lighting conditions. The marks on the face many of you referred to; I call frost breaks. There are bag marks and dings throughout, of course, but the frostbreaks surrounding them accentuate the bag marks and lessen the overall eye appeal. If you tilit this coin and look at it on an angle, you'd see what I mean. The frostbreaks are not "into" the coin.

    Now, If I review all grade estimates and throw my opinion in there; the probability of a higher grade is close to 100%. If I go this route, would it be beter to pull off the grade NGC assigned before sending it back to them? (That is, if they see the 62PL they previously assigned, will they even consider another?)
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Without seeing the coin in hand...it's really hard to make a decision on this coin. I think it's a 63 based on the photos. The price difference isn't much between a 62 and a 63 so I wouldn't resubmit it anyway.
     
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