Grease-Filled Die or Late Stage Capped Die? OPINIONS PLEASE!...

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by iGradeMS70, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    This is a coin I plan to sell in an eBay auction in the upcoming weeks and I just wanted to know exactly what to list it as in the auction. I suspect that it is probably a grease-filled die, but figured I'd ask the knowledgable CoinTalkers for some more opinons. Every comment is appreciated! :) ...

    GreaseFilledDie 001.JPG GreaseFilledDie 002.JPG
    GreaseFilledDie 003.JPG GreaseFilledDie 004.JPG

    ... Thanks in Advance,
    Brian

    EDIT: If these photographs are inadequate for a proper diagnoses, please notify me in a PM or in the comments section below.
     
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  3. Harley.d

    Harley.d Love coins

    Super deteration
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    My first take is that it is PMD. Maybe someone has another idea, but I cannot see how else the lettering gets into the rim.
     
  5. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    The grease makes the die expand pushing it out towards the rim. I've seen similar coins to this one that ARE NOT PMD. I'm 99.9% sure this is not a damaged coin. Actually, not too long ago I saw a thread here on CoinTalk with a similar coin with similar questions. Sadly, I cannot remember the name of the thread in order to search it for more information.

    -Brian
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Sorry, but that does not put the 4 over the rim (or the rim under the 4). How did they make a rim only on one side? The obverse letters and date look like they have been rolled over. i.e. a leaf edge not stuck to the coin fields.
     
  7. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Alright. So what are some other theorys? Are you saying this is a damaged coin? Are there any other errors that it may be? It just does not look like a chemical rinse to me. It looks to have been done BEFORE it left the mint.

    -Brian
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Maybe Mike Diamond will show up with some ideas, but I am out.
     
  9. Porsche2007

    Porsche2007 Senior Member

    I believe that this is post-mint damage.
     
  10. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    This coin spent some time in a clothes dryer. post mint damage.

    Richard
     
  11. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    As several others have correctly concluded, this coin was damaged outside the Mint. Both faces have been pummeled into a mushy mess, probably because the coin tumbled around the fins of an industrial dryer for a long time.
     
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