Follow-up: that fake 1920-S Walker from eBay

darn! PM me his responce when you get it!
-Taylor

 

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I did not say it provided absolutes, but it does strongly imply that counterfeits are NOT to be returned. "Buyers agree to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of counterfeit items. For example, buyers may be asked to destroy..........." There is certainly nothing in there that so much as implies that any counterfeit should ever be returned to the seller. They are obviously trying to assure that the counterfeits are not returned to circulation.

 

moo im a COW!

 

LOL!! Um...off topic dude!
HEHE!!!

 

What amazes me is why EBay allows counterfeits on their site, knowing they have no control over the so-called copy/replica markings on these fakes. IMHO just “asking” for trouble.

 

My gut says you are correct, but they are following the federal law. Not only that, most of the "replicas" come from China and they are perfectly legal there - with or without the stamp.

 

A late update: I was looking up my old Resolution Center cases, and noticed an unfamiliar user ID next to this case. After a bit of investigation, I found that this seller apparently had his account reinstated, approximately one year after he got NARU's. He's changed his ID (from oldshakyc124 to f-104starfighter), and since his bad feedback is more than a year old, he's back to 100% positive. He's selling again -- no coins this time -- and apparently keeping his nose clean, at least for now.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I guess a one-year vacation is a pretty harsh penalty, but because of the way eBay reports feedback percentages, those negatives are now effectively concealed. Or maybe he got restored after an even shorter break, but he decided to wait for the negs to age out. Either way, it makes me a bit nervous.

 

Some of these threads are better than any soap opra on tv.
There has been all kinds of advice some good but most not.
ID say the seller may have or may not have mislead you and prehaps he didnt know the coin was fake as he has said.
Either way its his coin as you have your refund and he should agree to handle shipping.
As far as him trying to pass it off on someone else is something you need not concern yourself with.
Most collectors should know to check a coin to see if its fake and if it is they shouldnt cry on others for their own mistakes.
We should all here be mostly grown up and should check out what we buy before we get it in hand.
Returning the coin is the honest thing to do and by doing it you show the seller you are much more grownup than he.

 

As much as I'd like to see you mess with him I suggest you ignore him. It's for the best that you don't have anything to do with him anymore. I don't think that he will try anything after you ignore his several times. If he does you can always take it to the police, after all you also have his contact details and address.

btw thanks for taking a part in kicking him off of eBay!

 

My question is how did you tell it was a fake could you tell just by looking or did you have to weigh it? Or maybe a magnet test? I should check stuff more closely that I buy on eBay with all these scams lately.

 

Hey, guys -- sorry for dragging you through an old thread. I just wanted to make sure anyone who fished this thread up from the archive was informed that the former bad actor is back on eBay.

I've had no further contact with the seller since last year's events, and I think that's the best possible outcome.

 

eBay does not require you to return the piece.

period.

 

Under what circumstances?

I expect that, if you use the term "counterfeit", they let you keep it.

When I got a three-inch paperweight instead of a 1927 double eagle, I used the term "novelty", not "counterfeit" or "fake". In that case, I was required to return it, but eBay sent me a prepaid mailing label.

There's also this (terribly sad) story from earlier in the year, indicating that eBay/PayPal may occasionally require you to destroy a counterfeit item in order to get your money back:

http://www.channel4.com/news/destroyed-ebay-violin-could-have-been-saved-lawyer

...but I have to imagine that, in the wake of media coverage, they'll be quite reluctant to do this again.

 

Just say you did your moral obligation as a United States citizen and turned it over to the Secret Service.

 

eBay cares about 1 thing $