I understand your frustration, and as I stated in my previous post (#2), I believe the coin to be genuine. I think the repair may have been done with a metal other than silver, causing the coin to be slightly magnetic in the area of the repair. One of the problems coin collectors are facing today is the huge influx of counterfeit coins from China, and sometimes buying raw coins through eBay or other internet sources is a gamble. It's almost as if ALL raw coins sold are guilty of being fake until proven otherwise. Some of us (myself included) will sometimes "jump the gun" when we receive a coin we feel is questionable.
I completely agree and would also say the coin was repaired/plugged with a magnetic material that lead the buyer to believe it was fake. Unfortunate situation.
I say we start circulating a petition to keep sellers from selling fake grandma's made of silver on eBay. They should be ashamed of themselves!
I would never sell my silver (haired) Grandma on ebay. Heritage is classier and I'd get more money for her there.
I got a headache trying to figure out what was said, what was sold (grandma)....time for a drink. maybe it will all blur together and become apparent to me
Last night I was just searching around to see if any of my eBay items are being cross listed on other sites and googled "Indigofirefly02 coins" and this thread was the first thing listed. Sorry that I had to find this place because of this situation but I've been checking the place out and it seems very cool.
Thanks for the reply. I can really sympathize with buyers being cautious about fake coins.... I know that it's a huge problem. I just don't understand why this had to turn into such a mess when I thought we had resolved it..... now I'm scrambling to do damage control because he's been posting this around different sites. And to be honest I didn't inspect the coin close enough when I listed it.... the area on the eagle's chest which people have pointed out looks like it might have been soldered looks obvious to me now but at the time that I listed it I thought it was just from where the metal had been warped outwards from the dent on the other side (which I did point out.)
In all fairness, Jello, since the seller has offered a full refund and has a decent feedback rating, I find it hard to believe they were intentionally trying to cheat you or someone else. I weigh most coins I offer for sale, but honestly don't generally do a magnet test. I don't think most other guys do either. But you post is pretty strong saying the "seller sells counterfeit coins" which may lead people to believe he is a cheat. I also understand that you have accused the guy on other forums ? This just doesn't seem right or fair to me. It did sound like you were offered full satisfaction, yet somehow that wasn't enough ? I just hope this can get worked out without anyone suffering needlessly because some things might have been said that were best kept private. gary
I'm having trouble deciphering all of them. I THINK he's accusing the sellER of selling counterfeits, but....
to Jello, you might want to dial back on your accusations, unless you can back them up with PROOF. There have been some recent hefty judgements against persons who used the internet to vent, Slander The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech), each of which gives a common law right of action. "Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication.[12] The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. Libel Libel is defined as defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.[13] The law of libel originated in the 17th century in England. With the growth of publication came the growth of libel and development of the tort of libel.[14]