Are these errors or post mint damage/defacing.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Toddaray, May 21, 2011.

  1. Toddaray

    Toddaray New Member

    Wondering what happened to these odd coins I found in my collection.

    1968 Kennedy Half
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    1974 Kennedy Half
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    Finally a 1874 Cent. I also was wondering, because I have a slew of these, what does a mark of 2 1/2, 3 1/2 or 4 followed by a diamond symbol mean?
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Can you point to what you think are errors on your coins? (The photo of the IHC is too dark to see any details.)

    That refers to the number of diamonds on the ribbon Liberty (the "Indian") is wearing. A certain number of diamonds must be present to achieve a certain grade.
     
  4. Toddaray

    Toddaray New Member

    I tried to "draw" some attention to the areas of question on my photobucket, sometimes the changes I made to the photo dont show up right away. The 68 area is circled, the 74 area is pointed at by an arrow and the IHC has a line drawn across it. The area above the line is what I am questioning.

    Thanks for the diamond tip. Is 4 as high as can be found? I have a few 4s.
     
  5. Toddaray

    Toddaray New Member

    If the edits do not show, press F5 to refresh the page, your computer might have cached the page.

    Sorry I have so many dumb questions, this coin business can be overwhelming.
     
  6. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    The only dumb question is an unasked question!
     
  7. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    The first two show post mint damage. The third looks like a lamination error.
     
  8. Toddaray

    Toddaray New Member

    Lamination error huh? I will have to go read up on that. Someone had told me the 1974 was a planchet error, the planchet had bubble or something, I just wanted to get a second opinion.

    Thanks for you help again. You will be hearing quite a bit from me as I search through all these old coins. Got my red book yesterday in the mail. VERY VERY HELPFUL. Helped me figure out I have a 3rd reverse 1879 S Morgan. I never would have found such a detail.
     
  9. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    I am not entirely sure how rockdude is able to distinguish that alteration on the surface as a mint error. Even though it may look like a laminations viewing these poor quality photos, there are many other things it may be; It could just be a dig or a deep surface scratch. Judging by these photos I, myself, cannot say for certain that it is an obverse lamination. Rockdude? You have come to the conclusion that it is a lamination. How is this? Do you have a super high resolution setting and have inhanced the quality of the photo yourself? Toddary, I am basicly saying don't get your hopes up. Now if I had the coin in hand, I would be able to diagnose in a split second the problem.

    -Brian
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The IHC is so heavily circulated that it is impossible to tell what caused it. Judging from the very slight color difference, I'd lean toward PMD. As for the others, PMD too!

    Chris
     
  11. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    +1... For now.

    -Brian
     
  12. bonbonbelly

    bonbonbelly Feel MS68 Look AG3

    I agree that the pix of the IHC aren't clear enough for a proper determination of the error, if any. But after just looking through 200+ IHCs I'd go with a lamination error. It's really common. I will probably see these things in my dreams tonight...residual haunting!! The two Kennedys are PM.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    A better picture would definitely help, but from what I see I do think it is a lamination error.
     
  14. Toddaray

    Toddaray New Member

    All I can do is post a larger scan, I am terrible at photography and dont have much in terms of a camera.

    Here is a bigger one. Hope it helps a little.
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  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Hmmm in the larger picture I am less convinced.
     
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