1720 French(?) something or another

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by IrishLuck, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Is that a shamrock? And a dog? Or horse?
    Worth at least melt value I suppose...
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    What's the diameter of the coin?
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    The Bearn mint had a cow mintmark, but it looked a little different than that critter.
     
  5. chuckylucky5

    chuckylucky5 Well-Known Member

    You didn't include size or weight, but here is a possibility.
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  6. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    27-ish mm.
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Does your Krause catalog have a pictorial chart of all the mintmaster marks, at the front of the France section, which might ID that little beastie below the bust? I no longer own the paper catalogs, and the NGC/Krause/Numismaster online database is kind of sparse with details like that.
     
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  8. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Sorry. Just posted size.
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    The type which @chuckylucky5 identified is 23 mm, so I dunno. Was there another slightly larger denomination? Hmm...

    Edit- oh, wait- I just linked up the wrong type. That one has the denomination "XX" in the field. Never mind.
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I think this is it... 1/3 ecu. Diameter 26.5 mm.

    "A" mintmark (Paris) below the point of the shield.

    I'm pretty sure the little critter and shamrock thingie below the bust would be the mintmaster's personal symbols.
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    According to Krause, the catalog value for the 1720-A 1/3 ecu is disappointingly low. In that grade, with the old scratch across the obverse, this coin is likely worth less than ten bucks. Which is lower than I would have guessed, based on its old silver "coolness factor", and history.

    But the KM (Krause-Mishler) catalog values are often quite low on 18th century stuff, I've found. On eBay, such a coin could certainly fetch more than that, I would think. Not that you're intending to sell it, of course.

    It's a neat old piece. This is some cool stuff you've been posting. Must be fun to go through.
     
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  12. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Well I know what it is know! Thanks. Maybe the 1643 will yield better results. :)
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Post it, in its own thread! (Or did you, already?) Didn't see it...
     
  14. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    on the way.
     
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  15. Bardolph

    Bardolph Active Member

    The animal shown under the king's head is a fox and is the mark of of the Directeur of the Paris mint Mathieu Renard de Tasta, 1719 to 1738. The shamrock is the mark of the engraver, Pierre Rousseau, 1674 to 1679, whose design was still in use
     
  16. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Awesome. Thanks for the info.
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks!
     
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