1976 Bicentennial Medal

his one is uncirculated and bronze.

It does not state that. The seller very well could have said silver proof. Of course you and I know the difference. But to a novice like this OP...........

If you go strictly by what the seller states. It's very very odd clad, that the OP's piece was taken to a professional dealer and they told the op ................you know the story if you read the thread. My suggestion is that just perhaps that seller swapped what was supposed to be a silver proof for something of far lesser value. It fits. Do you really believe that a dealer would tell a potential customer something is worth .50 when it actually does contain 90% Silver Content ? Can you honestly accuse that dealer of being dishonest without first hand experience with this dealer, as Chris did ? All to often we hear folks come here and trash this dealer or that without being capable of substantiating even the slightest point of suspicion. The dealer whom this OP took this medal to, stands by their appraisal. I personally discussed this issue with them, and to be very very honest, I have no reason to suspect any misleading or dishonesty on their part in this matter. They even offered to re-look at the medal, just to make certain there were no errors in appraisal made. Who would you choose to stand with ? A professional Dealer or some EBAY seller who may have simply pulled off a good one. That said. These were not made in pure silver. Some were made in 90% silver, some sterling silver , Bronze , Gold, Gold plated and a variety of other bi-metallic compositions. On this forum, it's anyone's best guess what it is really made of, without an in hand observation, as was done by a Professional and well known DEALER in the business. . I made some other reference calls also to get some sense of this dealers reputation. Accusations by those against Dealers with whom they have never had the occasion to do business with, is at best not in any way how real hobbyists want professional Dealers in this field to be presented, especially to beginners. There is nothing worse in this hobby than a dishonest dealer or unscrupulous SELLERS . BTW the pictures you see in the OP's opening, are the Sellers, and may not accurately portray exactly what the OP received. I just don't believe this dealer would intentionally attempt to steal the value of one silver medal. Do you ??????? Lets see , my business reputation or $40.00.................

 

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I would simply assume the dealer is mistaken.

To my knowledge these simply don't exist in any metals other than bronze and sterling silver.

 

No, there were GOLD, Gold Plated and SILVER but not of this design. I considered the fact that just perhaps the dealer could have been mistaken which prompted my call to them and some other reference checks. As I stated time and agin here, I hope the op's piece is actually at very least of the Sterling Silver composition, but I can't state that as fact, I dont have the medal in hand. . However the dealer reiterated the fact, there was no precious metal content in the piece that was presented. But they did offer a second look for the OP, which she refused because of the meritless comments made of this dealer by those whom have never dealt with the dealer and probably didn't even know they existed prior to this thread. How presumptive is that ???? and that is understated.

 

And to stake a reputation for $40.00 worth of Silver? The last time I heard that Jesus was in sandals.

 

Coinman, you are so full of it that your eyes must be brown.

In one breath, you say that it isn't silver.

Then you say it is 40%.

Then you say it is probably Sterling.

Then you suggest that it is bi-metallic. You do know there is a difference between bi-metallic and clad, don't you?

You also state that only .999 fine silver is based on silver melt. So, I guess 40%, 90% & Sterling are based on the price of copper.

Then you try to sell Shawni some of your stuff. This isn't the Classifieds!

Then you say there were billions of Bicentennial medals produced. Please show me the documentation.

Then you recant and say there were thousands and thousands made.

Can't you make up your mind?

Then you attack me about a thread I started on the NGC forums concerning the gold-plated medals, but you didn't bother to tell the whole truth about the thread. I hope it makes you feel important!

On top of it all, you chide cladking because he is getting away from the OP's topic. What the heck do you think you were doing?

Why don't you just admit that you made a few mistakes? It was easy for me to admit my mistake on the NGC thread because I prefer to relate truthful information rather than hide behind a lie to save face. I've got an ugly mug, anyway.

Chris

 

Exactly. And these don't cross dealers counters all that often. It's quite possible the dealer was ignorant with regard to the medal in question.....

 

While I haven't had one of these particular designs cross my counter it is well known that a lot of this bicentennial government stuff is made of sterling. A simple acid test can tell the difference between silver and not silver. We make sure to test them all. It looks like it's probably toned silver from the pics. I don't think Dale did his due diligence in his appraisal... it's much easier for someone to just write it off as a useless medal. I'm not thinking he was trying to be dishonest... but who knows.

And try to play nice guys... I don't really want to have to make this my first closed thread.

 

OK. Made me look.

There are actually 5 medals in this series made by the mint rather than 4 as I had stated. I forgot that the first issue was in '72 rather than '73. They were issued;

1972 George Washington
1973 Adams/ Henry
1974 John Adams
1975 Paul Revere
1976 Thomas Jefferson

They were issued in bronze and silver and nothing else to my knowledge. The bronze issues are uncirculated though very well executed and some are quite PL especially the 1972. The silver issues are proofs and are sterling. There are several other bicentennial medals issued by the mint in various metals.

The bronze issues wholesale for $1.25 in original packaging. The silver versions contain about .9 Ozt in silver, I believe. They are all so common that they swamp demand but I believe there are a couple varieties that are rarely seen. I'd have to check my records for this if anyone is interested. There's a variety of the SOL bicentennial issue with designer initials upside down.

I doubt the dealer was trying to rip anyone off. The picture of the medal does appear like bronze and could be more bronze looking in hand. Bronze will rarely fool someone familiar with silver but it's not impossible that this is a plated unc coin (post mint) or I'm simply wrong. My wager is that it's silver.

 

If anyone if full of anything it's you. You stated it was SILVER. IT is not, read the thread and replies. Your the error freak ! Don't know Gold from gold plated in your own collection and you propose to tell other folks what is Silver ? Please. Your nothing but a breast beating old man who thinks he knows it all. Well you don't. If anything, this is Sterling Silver as I posted very early on in this thread and gave the OP the current Sterling Silver Value. Now, I posted the link to your entire NGC Forum thread and told all here to read the entire thread. You see, once again you spout off not knowing what your talking about.

 

The stuff I offered was free, not for sale. Once again you don't know what your speaking about.

 

Clad, thats what I said in the very beginning of the thread, this design offered was made in Sterling Silver, Not .999 and I gave the Op the Current days Sterling Silver Melt Value, roughly $37.00. See the early posts. Yes it is possible that the medal is a plated UNC medal and there is no way for Chris to have said with any degree of certainty to the contrary without an in hand inspection. But he insisted he was correct, simply from a keyboard view, and than called the dealer pretty much a liar when they told the OP their appraisal confirmed no precious metal. Who do you side with, Someone who has not seen the medal in hand or the Professional Dealer who had ? Since these are not scarce , rare or otherwise expensive in any sense, I urged the OP to return the medal to the Seller and offered to assist her in getting one, that I know is of the true and original composition. ANYTHING is quite possible with EBAY SELLERS. Thank you for your post and considering the Dealers appraisal . Folks are far to quick to condemn a dealer, based upon one side of the story, and without the Coin or Medal in hand . . This gives this hobby a real bad introduction to beginners in this hobby , especially when that condemnation is from someone behind a keyboard, who has had absolutely no personal knowledge or experience with the Dealer . This is very hurtful to the hobby if not outright libel or slanderous toward a member of the PNG .

 

Here is the Link I posted for the OP in Post#8ttp://www.onlineauction.com/index.php?page=auction:view_item&auction_id=1335553 Which is what I suggested the OP might have.

 

Guy's you have been warned play nice or the thread will be closed​

 

Hey everybody! You may as well throw your 40%, 90% and 99.9% silver in the trash. According to this "reliable" source, if it isn't .925, it isn't silver.

I've said many times before on the NGC forums that I don't collect gold, and know nothing about it. So, why shouldn't I be entitled to ask? People come here all the time asking questions. I wonder what you think of them?


You're an idiot!

 

"The closed mouth catches no flies" - 1742 B. Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac

I warned you guys.