Kennedy Half no reeded edge?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by howboutatrade, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    Were any Kennedy half dollars mistakenly produced with no reeded edge? I recently purchased a worn set of Kennedy's in a Dansco, and while inspecting, found many of the coins in the set have no reeded edge. I am wondering if the collector was looking for them and that is why, or if there is another reason.

    Does anyone know if there were Kennedy half dollars produced with a smooth edge? All examples found are clad, so it was not done to get silver.
     
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  3. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    No.

    Slot machines wore them smooth.
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    The reeding was the first thing to wear off on my 1994-D KHD. After 17 years in my pocket the edge is completely smooth.
     
  5. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    These are interesting...whoever cleaned them up, from whatever wore the edge smooth, was able to get the cartwheel effect of luster back. Actually, given the details and lack of wear visible...I am thinking jewelry...where a compression ring held the coin and there was a plastic covering front and back that reacted with the coin surface over time, thus the luster is present giving the cartwheeling but the surface is "scratchy"
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Do you have a picyure ?
     
  7. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    And light cartwheels on this coin.

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  8. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Think I'll take some Kennedy's into work on Monday and hit the edge against the belt sander. Should do the trick!
     
  9. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    Look at this one. Lots of hair detail still. Obverse is a ding / scratch mess, the reeded edge is gone and sunlight cartwheels like crazy on here. Amazing

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  10. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    It's all post-mint damage.

    Cartwheeling has nothing to do with anything regarding the rim, dude.
     
  11. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    No..the cartwheeling is a good indication of luster...but how can a coin looking like this still have any??? Look at the surface, even the rim. How can a coin go from Mint State to this state and still maintain luster? That is the question
     
  12. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    Or is the cartwheeling caused by something else in this case??
     
  13. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

  14. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    Looking for education, not sarcasm... :)
     
  15. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Well, I just looked at a bunch of circulated Kennedy's (that I keep in stacks on my desk). About half the edges are worn smooth, and the coin still exhibits some luster even though well circulated:

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  16. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    It's not sarcasm, it's frustration at your lack of common sense. Look at the thing, it's clearly been on the business end of SOMETHING that did that to it. I mean, jeeze, dude have you ever seen a MS coin? That is nowhere near MS.
     
  17. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    You are missing the point. I know it is not an MS coin.

    The question is, how does a coin with this much visible bad stuff, that would be caused in circulation, or with a machine or something...still have the amount of luster that is visible when this coin is in hand? I am trying to figure out what the post mint issue was. It is a curiousity question.

    Is there a cleaning method that could restore luster even though the surface is no where near mint state? I have seen some cleaning methods that make a coin shiny, but not one that restores luster.

    From other posts, it does appear the edge wears extremely quickly compared to the rest of the coin...but this is extreme.

    Running these through a slot machine would have to remove the luster. All the dirty fingers, beer spills, etc. How do they get this messed up and still have the appearance of luster???
     
  18. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

     
  19. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    CuNi coins maintain far better luster than silver coins. I guess you've never looked at your change...

    And that can absolutely happen in slot machines. If you're just going to reject what I say, I'm done trying to help you. I don't need to draw a diagram about how slot machines work and why the edges get worn faster, just take my word for it.
     
  20. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I think that's the info we want howboutatrade to understand... almost all of my circulated Kennedy's still maintain some luster (in fact, I've only found one without luster, which is so unusual I posted it in another thread about worn Kennedy's). And many have smooth edges also.
     
  21. howboutatrade

    howboutatrade Active Member

    Okay..so...for these coins....

    1. Nickel clad maintains luster better...cool.
    2. Reeded edges, especially on coins with more copper and less nickel, wear extremely fast
    3. Slot machines and other coin based machines, as the coin slide through the counter and track, wear the edges much faster
    4. Slot machines create extensive marks as the coins fall through the chute on a pay out and bounce against each other in the basin
    5. The slot machine pay out, if the design of the machine is dropping the coin on its edge, will flatten the reeded part much quicker as the basin is harder than the coin

    Does that about cover it, or did I fail my test? I learned something new today.
     
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