Nice counterstamped coin from Brazil (960 Reis)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Collect89, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Please post your coins of Brazil (or any country) that have been counterstamped by the government.

    I will start by posting my newest coin. In the photo you will see that the coin is a little gray and somewhat lack-luster. However, IMO it is has never been harshly cleaned. Any dirt was washed-off long ago & all that remains is the bland gray toning you see in the photo. The coin may grade VF and the counterstamp looks to have EF details.
     

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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    My coin (posted above) is a Bolivian 8 Reales dated 1808. It is counterstamped by Minas Gerais (a state in eastern Brazil). The counterstamp made this coin legal tender in Brazil as 960 Reis.

    In 1808, a law was passed in Brazil authorizing counterstamps to be used on many circulating Spanish 8 Reales coins. The silver value of these Spanish coins was 750 to 800 Reis per coin but Brazil stamped & passed the coins at 960 Reis. This gave the government a nice profit of 160 to 210 Reis for every coin that they stamped.

    I think I have photos depicting a couple other common counterstamped coins. I’ll post them if I can find the photos. In the mean time, please post your counterstamped coins & tell us a little about them.

    Once again, thanks for letting me share & I look forward to seeing your coins.
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I know that I have a big copper piece from Brazil with a counterstamp but I can't find the photo. I did find these two photos.

    The big Peru Sol dated 1869 is counterstamped 1894 for use in Guatemala as a 1/2 Real.

    The smaller coin is an 1847 1/2 Real from the Central American Republic with counterstamp to make it legal tender in Costa Rica after the Central American Republic break-up.
     

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  5. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I like your coins Collect89. I collect counterstamps and have a large collection, but mostly only U.S. issues, and no official stamps. All of mine are private issues by individuals and companies. I always liked the counterstamps on silver coins the best, they generally "show" better than those on copper coins, especially as they age. Do you have any others, official or private? Thanks for posting them.

    Bruce
     
  6. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Great coin 89. I have many chop marked coins. But all from Asia.
     
  7. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    Very nice coin. I would sure love to have one of those Bolivian 8 Reales. I've sold a couple of those Peruvian Soles, counter-stamped as well.
     
  8. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Bruce,

    I had these coins available & tooks some quick photos this weekend.
     

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  9. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello again Bruce,

    This 1798 US large cent has what looks like "...KIMBA..." countermarked on it.

    The Costa Rican coin & the large Brazilian coper piece have counterstamps that revise the value of the coins.
     

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  10. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Thanks for looking everyone. Please post your counterstamped coins.
     
  11. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I've seen some of your counterstamps 89, but don't have any examples in my collection. I particularly like the Cob, but the most interesting one to me is the 1798 "Kimba" piece. The depressed rectangle the letters are in indicates that there's a letter (probably initial) before "Kimba" and one or two more after it. My guess is the name may actually be "Kimball", but it's hard to tell from the pic. The style is that of a silversmith or some other fine metal craftsman, but in searching several sites that list hundreds of these marks I didn't come across anything with variations of the name looking like this one. It's very old though, probably stamped on the coin shortly after it was minted. The wear indicates that it probably dates back to 1800-1810. I'm sure you've examined the counterstamp very closely and was wondering if you have any idea as to what else might be stamped in the depression (if anything). All great pieces 89, thanks for posting them.

    Bruce
     
  12. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Bruce,

    http://www.cointalk.com/t46132/

    This is a link to some better photos of the 1798 cent with KIMB... stamp.
     
  13. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I have a few counterstamped coins, but not many pictures unfortunately.

    Here is one which has an interesting story behind it , which I told in this thread:

    http://www.cointalk.com/t52528/


    I really like your counterstamped coins, Collect89 - Most of all I like the Republica de Centro America C/S coins, but that 960 Reis coin is interesting too. I believe that various 8 reales were used as hosts, including Potosi, Lima, and also Santiago.

    As I said, very nice coins Collect89. Your collecting tastes seeem very similar to mine.
     
  14. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Thanks for the link to the additional pics Collect89. It looks like there may be a "C" initial before the "Kimba", but not 100% sure. Thanks again for posting your counterstamps.

    Bruce
     
  15. Collect89

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  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Added another counterstamp to the collection

    This is an 1845 2 Real Costa Rica counterstamp placed on a 1810 4 Real from Madrid.

    Isn't it interesting that they counterstamped 2R on a silver 4R coin? All the other examples in the Krausse catalog appear to be 2R counterstamped on 2R coins.
     

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  17. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I love the small bust counterstamped over the large portrait on the obverse Collect89. Great pickup! With just a few exceptions, all of my counterstamps are U.S. issues. I like the ones you've been posting though, so may look around for a few of these for my collection. Very nice!

    Bruce
     
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