CAC Premium

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by DMiller, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. DMiller

    DMiller Junior Member

    Today is the first time I've really been presented the option of buying a CAC-certified coin. I understand the purpose behind the CAC sticker, but I'm curious if that justifies an increased premium on the coin?

    The coin in question (1945-D Mercury, MS66 FB) generally retails for ~$51.50 (an average of Heritage hammer prices over the past few months), while the dealer is asking $65. Does the CAC justify this much of a markup? If so, what is generally the maximum markup you'll pay for a CAC-certified coin?
     
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  3. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    CAC grade verified coins usually do command a premium . How much of a premium depends upon a few factors. With regards to the coin you purchased there should be nothing more than a " Slight " Premium , if any. Personally , I have paid premiums of a hundred to a couple of hundred dollars . In your case, is it worth the $13.50 to be assured that the assigned grade by the TPG assures that the coin is fully and accurately graded ? It's good insurance in today's market where many of the coins graded by TPG's are either over-graded or in another way a problem coin. Remember , think of this premium as a one time INSURANCE expenditure . A photo of the coin would be helpful here as well.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well it is not true that all CAC certified coins command a premium. I have seen several that have commanded a premium and were worth it - but it was the coin, not the CAC sticker in my opinion. Just check out pricing on heritage - for CAC coins. Plus I bought one CAC certified coin from a dealer that was less than other dealers - that coin was a nice one also. Plus - not knocking CAC, but a few coins I have seen I did not think deserved little green beans. Anyway look at the coin, is the coin worth the premium?

    PS - I have seen several CAC coins command 30% to 50% more than the same grade non-cac coins. And I honestly believe they were worth it.
     
  5. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    If you can tell with absolute certainty that any coin is graded 100% accurately , than you have no need of CAC. If you can't, well than there is a price to be paid for that service.
     
  6. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    When I buy coins, if they are PCGS Secure or CAC, they are those things. I don't go out of my way to pay the premium. They don't do it for me.
     
  7. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    I think it is worth $10 to $15 extra for the sticker. However, I also think it is worth paying $30 for the most common of coins slabbed by PCGS or NGC because thats about what it costs for the service excluding bulk submitted Moderns. I prefer $20 and like $10 too - Free is the best price! :)
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    When you find those, please share(at least with me). :)
     
  9. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Here is a recent purchase I made, and I certainly didn't mind paying a premium to have the added professional grade verification. The total number of CAC verified examples of this issue, in this grade is exactly 1 with under 6 in all higher grades. The premium I paid for this coin I considered the best possible insurance available against any dealer or individual who may suggest that the coin is of a lessor grade. The Photos as most times, don't adequately capture the real beauty this piece exhibits. The fields are absolutely mirror like . As a matter of fact , I could easily see this coin at two grades up . Stunning.
     

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  10. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    CAC premiums are like "Martinizing" your dry cleaning. In the final anyasis it adds nothing.
     
  11. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    Corinthian Leather.
     
  12. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Is it rich fine corinthian leather or Naugahide???? LOL
     
  13. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    As long as your anyasis doesn't include selling it, you are correct.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Agreed with both the statements. Very nice coin.
     
  15. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Then you're saying it should have received a gold bean?
     
  16. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    It is one of the best PRF. examples I've seen . If it weren't for the very very slight weakness on the reverse in a star , I would say it deserves a step up for sure.
     
  17. Player11

    Player11 Bullish

    I won't pay a premium because a coin has a CAC sticker. I will pay a premium for a nice coin which meets my grading criteria. Not all CAC coins do this and I have seen many unattractively toned coins with CAC stickers LOL. They are essentially a marketing tool for a pool of dealers / investors who do big ticket material where the markups are rather high.
     
  18. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    What does " CAC " stand for?
     
  19. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder


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    I think it is one of those, can't rember
     
  20. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    I like cheese.
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    certified acceptance corp
     
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