Another raw Walker to grade

I am slowly putting other pics up and will have separate threads for each.

Give me your grades on this 1917. The green thing is foreign material I didn't notice when I took the pic. *sorry* The subsequent shadow to the left is also evident. My apologies. The photography was done in natural sunlight.

Let 'er rip!

Oh, and if anyone has greysheet values to post, that'd be awesome too!

 

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I say a high XF

 

I'll go a bit higher- AU55

 

It is hard to tell in the natural light because it makes the coin look like it has no luster. That being said I can't really tell but it looks to me like weak strike on the obverse not wear and would say it is MS 62-3.
Bid is $55 in AU $100 MS60 $140 MS63.

 

Ef-40

 

Vg-35

 

VF-35

Breast is worn into the dress. Not quite enough stripes on it.

 

How about AU details - cleaned and scratched

 

I don't know, but the reverse has way too much feather detail to assume that the obverse wore all the way to VF and left the reverse so nice. The breast, hand, head and flag on this series can typically show very weak strike and be confused as wear. Not saying this is the case here, but I could not see this being any lower than an AU coin.

 

What's on the rim above the "D" in "UNITED", and does it matter?

 

it's a black spot. It's definitely on the coin. There's another small black spot at about 1:00 on the reverse as well

 

I'm thinking AU but cleaned.

 

AU-50 looks like a weak obverse strike . Looks like it has some luster left . How is the luster in hand . A XF coin the luster would usually only be in the protected areas .
Rusty

 

VF to maybe XF.

 

Unfortunately my photo skills are improving. IOW, the luster on these coins is as brutal in hand as in the photo unfortunately. They haven't seen the light of day in about 20 years or so. When my friend bought them they were overgraded and likely cleaned, but I am asking people with more experience than me to give opinions on technical grade for them so I can advise my friend. This series can be difficult. Especially for dates prior to 1921.

 

Those carbon spots are a bit distracting, and may affect a TPGs decision in the grading room. That coin is a beauty, but I cannot give it any more than and XF45. It most likely will grade an XF40 with those spots and dress wear (Even though eagle's chest feathers are very bold for that low of a grade), but I thought I'd give it some room.

-Brian

 

The dress is not worn, but is a characteristic of pre-1921 dies. According to Photograde by James Ruddy "From 1916 to 1920 the skirt lines are weak and cannot be used to determine grade.

I agree with you on the carbon spots and mostly onm the grade. I would probably call it an AU-53 due to the spots and bad luster. The reverse is a good indicator of how much wear this coin has seen and as such it has seen very little.

 

Tough group. I'm not seeing much wear.

 

That Walker to me looks better than my PCGS 45..

 

cleaned and ruined. somewhere between junk silver and 20 % of book value. Hang the (_x_) that ruined this great set of walkers by cleaning them !