Matte Lincoln Cent Proofs 09-16

This thread maybe image intensive. Stop here if your browser does not auto size.

I know there are other MPL threads, however the one thing that is consistently missing from those threads is image evidence. Often those threads end with go buy the book. I bought the book and I have a huge headache. First off, the images are terrible. The written die diagnostics do not have arrows or anything pointing to often blurry black and white images.

I have a huge headache over the 1916 MPL vs Business Strike die diagnostics.

Furthermore, this is another case of me, a newbie questioning the authorities. I swear coin collectors for the most part are sheep. I have always questioned all my 50 years of life, coin collecting is the first hobby where I have felt ...... banned for stating obvious facts and tying those facts to an opinion.

For example: Why should we accept this:

Illini420 posted the link to the entire thread and I thank him. It is a very good read. many props to the OP. http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=30&threadid=677828&STARTPAGE=1 What a shame that the thread ended and even more a shame that when recently bumped, a member basically told him not to do that? Why?

I wonder, I bet that those who establish these principals have a vested interested in making sure that all the sudden, populations aren't doubled/tripled. Harsh? not if you have a couple hundred k tied up in MPL's

The physical characteristics of a coin are what they are. It is ludicrous IMO to use graders opinion (guess) of a coiners intent as the last stop for authentication. wow!

The point is, I can produce images of 1916 Lincoln that clearly have MPL die diagnostics that apparently are not MPL's??? Yet there is no explanation ever given for this sort of thing:

 

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It's not the width that bothers most it's the size of your files! Compression is your friend there's no need to post a 1+ mb picture

 

I shoot in .jpg mode. They are compressed! I don't bother shooting RAW - thats unnecessary. IMO.. C'mon the Canon 40d is 3 yrs old now... I can save at 85% when I crop to a circular image, but then I have to add the extra step or keep 2 folders. And to think that I would like to have the EOS Mark II at 21MP lol...

I guess lots of peeps are still on dial up? My quad pentium is 3 years old and I do have an upgraded CATV account but it only increased my upload speed. Which bugs out the PCGS servers occasionally. I guess those who have problems with my images don't watch any Hi-Def video? Any Skype fans here?

 

Done.

 

Pretty hot topic, 1916 MPL vs 1916 Business strike. I believe the design was sharpened for the year 1915, it was getting dull at around 1914 I think. I don't own a 1916 MPL myself, but I think the Penny Lady has a real nice one in PR-66 BN or so.


I love them Matties

 

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that's a beautiful MPL, Larry

 

it's hard for me to accept that those who are MB's a lot, have problems with slow connections/computers. oh well, I guess everyone is on dial up and has computers older than my 3 yr old $600HP pavillion..

I may be able to do something with the tags that increase the thumbnail link size - what is the default forum width here anyway??

anyone can post files that large? I don't understand. I will have to add another step to make the images I take smaller. why would I want to make images smaller, just so I can post here for everyones dial up and pentium 133mhtz Are you telling me that everyone makes their images smaller?

For example: I can barely see the diagnostics on your 16MPL image and thats only cause I know where to look. I see the big scratch in the center of the C in CENT which apparently occurs on MPLs 10-16 but not on business strikes as it did in 09.

 

Beautiful '16 MPL. Man...one of these days I'll buy a MONSTER toned MPL. I really love the 1912 PR-66 BN in the Gobrecht Monster Toned Raisinet collection on the PCGS Registry. This particular MPL is one of the most beautiful MPL's I've ever seen.

 

I've never had an issue with your images. I think they're great and I like the details they give me.

 

LD your MPL exhibits the die chip in the upper loop of the 9 as this date does Reverse Die #2 all the other posted diagnostic are die scratches which will likely wear if the coin has been circulated at all.





I had to light this coin directly from the left side to capture what looks like remnants of the die scratches that are on reverse 2 -



here is another 1916 date with the same chip in the upper loop of the 9

 

Thanks man... That is good to know. It's hard for me to believe/accept that posting images from a camera 3 years old is giving people problems. Silly for me to give in and resize smaller, because I am not doing/using anything that is out of the ordinary. I am wondering if coin collectors in general only spend their coin money on coins and next to nothing for important accessories that go along with coin collecting like cameras and computers?

 

are you done whining now?

I couldn't possibly care less what equipment you use, how old it is, or how inconvenient it is for you to resize your pictures.

Geez, grow up, man! You don't have to insult people constantly in your posts. Remarking about how we're sheep, or that we all have dial-up or that we all use pentium 133s is unproductive and just plain rude.

So get yourself a box of kleenex and cry about it someplace else so I don't have to wade through your incessant whining to read about MPLs

Talk about giving people a headache!

 

So typical.. why did you post that? Nice contribution. Do you have any issues with viewing the images I post? I am trying to figure out these problems and you do what? Thanks for the help.

 

PCGS images are almost 8 MB's and Heritage images are over 1 MB. All for good reasons. I'm all for the image sizes EyeEat uses, and never have a problem with them.

 

Here's a few MPLs that I have purchased recently... pics probably not good enough to show the diagnostics though, but they are proofs:

PR66RB


PR65BN


PR66BN


This one here is still probably my favorite though, 1909 PR65RB (the professional images are nice too):

 

Oh I have a fast enough laptop and desktop. Though when I am on the road working I run an air card and pay for my MB used. I generally don't let your images load because they cost me 1. Time 2. MONEY but I guess if its all about you then it's all about you

 

+1 :thumb:

-LTB

 

Very nice Mike, are you going for the full set?

Curious, looks like the '14 has the C scratch but not the '13? the 09's aren't supposed to have them....?

 

God, I love MP lincs.