1881-S Morgan Dollar

i posted some more pictures that might help determine the grade a little better, if it is PL or DMPL.

 

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No, those don't help at all. You were given instruction on how to measure the mirrors and determine if it's PL or DMPL... get a ruler, hold it parallel to the coin, and see if you can read the 8" marker clearly. If you can, it's DMPL. If you can't, it's PL.

 

I put marks on a paper 8 inches away from the coin.
the back could see alot further the 8 inches.
The front could almost see the mark about 7 or 7.5 inches.
I would think that this coin would be a DMPL.

 

Then you have your answer. Unfortunately, the coin is heavily bagged and wouldn't grade higher than 62 on even the best of days.... Hence, my assessment of 61-DMPL.

 

Thank you all for the help can you view some other of my posts:
1879-S Morgan Dollar
1895-S Morgan Dollar
1916 Nickel
1882-S Morgan Dollar
Thanks once again.
More grades will help

 

I am certainly not an expert here, but, is it me or are there indicators that this has been cleaned? The dullness around the date, and some stars on the obverse, and the surface lines on both obverse and reverse make me think so.

 

I bought this coin from a 90 year-old lifetime collecter and was holding on to it his whole life. I wouldnt think is been cleaned because it wouldnt maintain the DMPL surfaces on both sides.

 

Not necessarily true. I can tell you have a lot to learn about coins... there's no point in discussing any of your threads further, you've gotten grades that are as accurate as you're gonna get until you get us better pictures.

 

some more pics for you intrested.

 

Way overexposed.

 

What??!!

 

too much light in those latest pics K2.....

I'd guess this one would be lucky to get MS63,,, if it graded.

Raider can probably offer the best guidance here.

 

I am always amazed at how many people, collectors, dealers etc, handle their coins without wearing white inspection gloves. I know to handle a coin around its edges, but why take the risk? I thought handling these coins with bare hands was a no-no. I was amazed to see how many folks at the Baltimore coin show handling UNC coins with their bare hands! When I pulled out my gloves to handle THEIR merchandise they looked at me like I was nuts. Well some did anyways. The last thing I want is someone's fingerprints all over my "UNC" coin. Am I the odd one out here on wearing the white gloves?

 

MS64 DMPL There, that should make you happy.

 

Looks like die polish lines to me Doug.

 

Doug on that image I see tons of die polish as other 1881-S's have, what is the cleaning you see? Would like to know for my own info.

 

I don't think so. I see that it might grade as a DMPL but the amount and location of the bagmarks keeps it at a 63 or less.

 

I will add in todays environment you may not get a DMPL or PL on that coin because of the amount of die polish. The reverse does not have a full mirror so without that there is no PL or DMPL. I have a 78-S in a fattie I want to cross but the die polish has held it back.

I dont buy the LED lights make the hits look worse. They have to be on the coin for them to show in the image.

As an example this coin would have a hard time getting back into the holder today. I love the die polish but the grading companies dont right now.