Most unusal1978 cent

I started to throw this unique looking coin in the junk pile because I could see what looked like damage before I even touched this coin. Then I decided to give it a look anyway. After closely examining the coin I'm 100% sure this is a true mint error. If this was from PMD the the reverse side of the coin would have to show some damage also . The reverse side of this coin is totally damage free.

Then this leaves the only possible way this could be PMD is for it to have been done with some type grinder and this is not possible because all of the original mint luster is still on the coin and even down in the valleys of the sunken in areas.This coin is at least MS60 condition. If the mint luster was not still present then I would have declared it PMD and threw it away.

What's everyone's opinion of what caused the coin to be this way ? My opinion is that it was struck thru a late stage die cap but I can't think of what made the sunken in valleys that goes all the way from the coins edge and completely across Linco ln's head unless it was the ejector finger or some other foreign object that got between the capped die and this coins planchet.the entire obv erse of this coin looks weird and still has the original mint finish on it.

Anyone can call this PMD all they want to but I have collected an d studied error and variety coins for at least 40 years and I'm almost totally sure this coin was done this way while it was still in the die.

 

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Since you feel this way, I guess there is no point disagreeing with you or discussing other possible scenarios for this PMD.

Chris

 

okay.

 

i see a bit of commercial clothes drier, and the top looks like it was shaved off with a pair of serrated scissors

 

You've got a real treasure there! One of a kind! I'd get it right over to Heritage for auction! Millions of dollars are at stake here!

 

ill start the bidding at melt value, 3 cents

 

I'm placing my bid for 3 1/2 cents.

 

This is for all of the ones on here that are self declared smart azz think they know it alls. I'm not trying to sell this coin or anything and I never said it was even worth a cent and don't care one way or the other. I just decided to show some photos of it so you don't need to act like total retards..There is absolutely no way that you nut cases can call this coin PMD by just looking at the images of it. I recognised when I found this coin that it probably would never be authenticated because it is too unusal and any so called error expert calls everything that is not a common error as PMD , we all know that is totally true and the error experts will tell you this is how they operate. The so called experts are just like everyone else , they make big mistakes also. I sent a real doubled die coin to one of them for examination and right away he declared it as a worthless die chip , Imagine that. Luckily for me I had almost a hundred of these coins and almost returned them back to the bank because of this but decided to get a second opinion because I was almost sure I was right about what I had.Now I'm the proud owner of the real doubled die authenticated and slabbed coins. I am still friends with this person , he just jumped the gun and made a honest mistake.

I have concentrated on learning the difference between real mint errors and PMD coins for many years. The reason I think this unusal looking thing may be a mint error is like I said in my first post. Anyone that has a tiny piece of a brain should know that it is impossible to damage the obverse of a coin by hammering or pressing something into the coin without doing some damage to the reverse side no matter how they try to do it. This coin does not have any damage to the reverse side so this rules out the hammering or pressing method.

This only leaves one other PMD possibility and this would be from grinding or constant rubbing against something. if this was the case then how can the original mint luster still be on the entire coin? Plus under high magnification there are no grind marks at all anywhere on this coin, even down in the pushed in places it is perfect smooth . I know for sure that if anyone removes the mint luster off a copper or silver coin down to the bare metal by over cleaning it that this mint luster is impossible to replace. there are chemicals that can be used but this is no where near the real mint luster.

You all can laugh all you want to because it does not bother me , so go ahead and keep on acting like a bunch of monkeys. you all are so smart you don't need to learn anything anyway. LOL

 

And I'll put my bid WAY higher- it looks like a genuine error. I like error coins, and I have a weird collection of 1997-1999 D pennies with the same error (struck through grease) in the same spot.

I have a PMD dime that has a crack right in the same spot

 

Well said Rascal. I'm rootin for you to have found a real mint error. Thanks for posting.

 

Contact John Wexler on this.

 

Quite a mystery. We need someone who works at the mint to comment. They would know.

 

i honestly dont think it is a struck through beause of the weakness of strike in the hair, we would see a corrasponding weakness on the reverse. Although im not saying its pmd because i honestly cant think what it could be

 

Why did you argue with cpm9ball, Rascal? Why did you take that post down, Rascal?

You wrote this: "Anyone can call this PMD all they want to but I have collected and studied error and variety coins for at least 40 years and I'm almost totally sure this coin was done this way while it was still in the die." You later deleted it because it no longer suited your argument.

After coming here to ask a question, you were not happy with the answer. Now you are being made fun of. There are EXPERTS here. You ask them for their opinions, then tell them their opinions are WRONG? Tell them that they know nothing?

Then you hurt because you are made fun of?

Pull up your big boy pants, Rascal. It's PMD! Really, PMD!

 

Testy little bugger, isn't he!

Like I said in my first post, there is no point discussing it with you. You've already made up your mind, so by getting nasty, you will not get help from anyone. Besides, all of the psychiatrists are on vacation.

Chris

 

i dont appreciate you calling the people of this forum "retards"
I do my community service for school working with those who have mental disabilities, so this really hits home, this is a family place rascal, so please do not use words like that in the future

-Mark

 

Couldn't a person put a piece of leather or rubber between the rev of this coin and a vice to avoid marking the rev when it was squeezed?

 

Cool find, can't wait for the final outcome of this one...

 

There are all kinds of ways one side can be damaged without affecting the opposite side.

Chris

 

Rascal, can you post a full pic of the obverse with the same lighting as the final pic?