The Toning Premium Thread

Looks baked on to me.

 

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I highly doubt it, since he's a certified ANA and NGC dealer. I don't know of any reputable dealers selling baked Morgans. I'm sure it has happened though. I asked him if it was baked. He told me no. But we shall see....

 

Didn't say it was. Just said it looked it to me.
I"m in this thread to learn so I'll sit back and see what others say.

 

The thumb print on the obverse on the 3rd picture right becide her chin raises baked flag for me, I know because ive baked plenty of coins in my time just to experiment, and if you touch a coin right after it comes out, or right after it cools down it will leave an almost permate thumb print.

The obverse looks funky and so does the reverse however i like the reverse

 

At first I would've agreed with Duke right off—baked—because the color pattern doesn't seem to be consistent with typical NT patterning. However, several of the stars (e.g., around 4:00 and 8:00) have the toneless "shadow" that supposedly guarantees NT. Hmm...

 

That coin is AT. It's worth scrap silver value, but it sold for about $7 more + the $3.95 shipping: 1882-S MORGAN

 

+1. I'm sorry to say the coin looks horrible in the ebay photos. Still, what would explain the telltale "toneless shadows" around the stars? I didn't think they could be reproduced through an AT process.

 

My guess would be AT and not particularly nice either.

 

Interestingly, the seller still insists that it's all natural. Even taking the time out to email me pics of faked toned Morgans. Whatever the case, after my trip to the Baltimore coin show today and after showing to 5+ dealers, all agreed it was baked. However on the upside all offered to buy them from me for 35.00 a piece.

 

Count me in the group that thinks it is AT.

 

Hey while we are sitting here talking , Ill post the first toned coin I find in my collection.

Eh nothing special!

 

Much ado about tarnish... Camero's Frankie is NT. Final stage before black.

 

I know that, This is the toning thread where we post toners and people guess the ammount we paid for it

 

That guy sells coins with all the same kind of toning , Is this your idea of a NT coined . It was baked like the other .
rzage

 

All he has to do is show you some of his coins , I'd bet my collection they're AT .

 

I gotta admit that one looks cool, kinda like a lightning strike. Too bad the coin is ruined.

 

I looked up the name of the mint on that slab, and there isn't much to their website. It's sellers like these who take great coins and ruin them. At least I was able to get rid of my faked baked tonies and walked away from the coin show with a true 1887 O VAM Double 7. I learned a lot of things yesterday and I'll be attending again.

 

Looks like they slab their own coins , glad you were able to get a nice Vam Double 7 . We've all made mistakes in our collecting , learning from them is all we can do . Seems like you're learning fast . Congrats on that and your '87-O .
Rusty

 

Looks like the sulfur wonder chemical was used! The coin is dipped, and slowly extracted giving the blue streak. You will never get greens with this method. What a waste of a perfectly good Morgan!
I have a couple Ike's that did exactly that (They actually look cooler, but there is nothing real about this method) when I was playing with the chems a few months back for the AT/NT DEATH thread.

Show the guy these photo's, and than let us know if he still wants to call his Morgan an NT??? These were created in my sink. Sorry the photo doesn't do them justice, but it does look like electric lightening...


I should mention that I poured in powdered nickel acetate to glob the sulfur, and extracting the Ike allowing the sulfur the drip off the bottom creating the lightening.

 

Well, I did contact the seller and told him of the conclusions that were made, and all he had to say was go with slabbed coins to be safe. I have not heard back since. He has a 100% rating, so sadly over 1450 people have been fooled. When I traded my fake bakes for the vam double O 1887 and a couple of BU Morgans I had I was just relieved I was able to find something better and trade up. Now I have one raw BU and one slabbed. The dealer told me it's about an MS 64. I'll post pics of it when I can get better photos of the reverse.