Toughest Coin to Grade … Peace Dollar??

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  1. Rope

    Rope New Member

    The Peace dollar is one of my hardest coins to grade, what is yours ………
     

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  3. EvilKidsMeal

    EvilKidsMeal New Member

    Any of them. ;) I am still extremely new to the grading game.
     
    EvilKidsMeal, Mar 26, 2011
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  4. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    The peace dollar is a challenge. You have to look at a lot of coins before you start to feel comfortable with the series. For me it is the Washington Quarter.
     
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  5. Rope

    Rope New Member

    Tater
    Another peach, got to love it.
     
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  6. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Buffalo Nickel along with the Peace $
     
    KoinJester, Mar 26, 2011
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  7. USMoneylover

    USMoneylover Active Member

    Franklin halves? Au-MS can be tough imo
     
    USMoneylover, Mar 26, 2011
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  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    $2-1/2 and $5 Indian Gold.
     

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  9. SWThirteen

    SWThirteen Needs a 24/7 Coin Shop

    I second that.
     
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  10. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Slq
     
    Ripley, Mar 26, 2011
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  11. Rope

    Rope New Member

    hobo
    Forgot this one, almost nothing to go by ... Who can afford to learn ??
     
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  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    If you buy raw $2-1/2 or $5 Indian Gold you cannot afford not to learn.
     
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  13. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Agreed. The incuse design makes these tough to grade.

    Bruce
     
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  14. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    I've got to agee, the Peace Dollar is a challenge to grade.
     
    RaceBannon, Mar 26, 2011
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Without a doubt the toughest coin to learn to grade is the Washington quarter. And that's not just coming from my lips, most professionals will tell you the same thing. The design's lack of detail, even on fully struck examples makes grading them accurately a nightmare.

    That said, any coin that you are unfamiliar with is tough to grade. But that's because grading any coin requires extensive experience - with that coin. Example - I agree that the gold Indians are tough for most people because they have very limited experience with those coins. But gain the experience and you can grade one in a matter of seconds just like any other coin. But that is because the design has fine/intricate detail by which you can gauge quality of strike, lack of detail due to wear, breaks in the luster - all of the things you use to grade any coin.

    But the Washington quarter, that one has virtually no intricate detail in the entire design. Sure you can see breaks in the luster to judge if the coin is MS or not. But even a fully struck example, when placed side by side with weakly struck example, looks much the same. And for that reason MS examples of Washington quarters are graded almost solely by quality of luster. And that is one of the hardest things there is to learn about any series and it requires significantly more experience to do so.

    And when you get to the circulated coins, the lack of design detail on even MS examples makes it even harder to judge accurately what grade a circ coin may be, for all but the lowest circ grades. So in these cases the amount of remaining luster plays a larger part than it does with other coins.
     
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  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    +1

    Wash quarters are 2nd on my list after incuse gold.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So very much this. In fact, I'm going to have to start a "help me!" thread for my first quarter eagle -- I can't see any wear on the design, and there's plenty of luster on the design, but the fields are completely dull and lifeless.
     
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  18. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    Most modern coins are tough for me.

    Wash Quarters
    Roosy Dimes
    Franklin Halves
    JFK Halves
    Ikes

    There really isn't any reason to grade them once circulated. Good and EF are the same price on most of them except 32- D/ S quarters and there is little fine detail on any of them.
     
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  19. Rope

    Rope New Member

    The interesting IMHO part of the MS Franklins is the FBL
     
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  20. eric0911

    eric0911 SMS-71

    For me it's AU/MS morgans. I can grade coins below AU, coins I know are AU, and coins I know are MS, but I can't say if a coin is MS or AU.
     
    eric0911, Mar 28, 2011
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  21. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I have problems with silver Washington Quarters and Peace Dollars for the same reason on both. They both have that weird white-ish luster that tends to make the duller coins in better condition have less eye appeal than the sharp coins in lesser grades. To a certain extent, the same happens for me with Franklin Halves.

    Some coins from the Middle East give me similar fits... but that's because I can't read what they say, so I'm unable to discern sharpness.
     
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