Would you return this?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by ronterry, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Got this in the mail today, and I'm on the fence on weather to return this back to the BEP.
    It's a $10 Lucky Lion.
    Oh and the 32 subject has a small tear on the end and crumpled a little on both ends, which I can live with since I'm going to frame it, but dang this stuff isn't cheap and I've seen better quality control from the Chicoms?

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    My other lucky notes are perfect, and I don't know if I was just getting lucky and my number finally hit, or this is out of the norm with the BEP?
    I know the U.S mint puts out crap all the time! Scratched proof coins that looked like they used it to hold open a door or something. Is the BEP any different?
     
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  3. Mark14

    Mark14 Star Wide Receiver

    doesnt the left most arrow belong near the bottom right hand corner 10?
     
  4. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Far be it from me to dissuade anyone from their collecting interests . I think your money could be more wisely invested .
     
  5. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    Deep it in a solution and see if it tones.
     
  6. Numismania

    Numismania You hockey puck!!

    Not being big on currency (besides spending it), I'll be the one to ask.....

    What is meant by the term 'Lucky Lion'?
     
  7. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    It's more about Art to me, cause I enjoy framing them and showing visitors how cool paper money can be. Most non collectors walk away with a different prospective than paper being nothing more than a medium of exchange.
    To me, it's better than some reproduced painting that every other person has on their wall...

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  8. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Please explain what that means?
     
  9. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    It's a series the BEP has going, and is part of their lucky money collection with Chinese folk lore thrown in. The second picture I posted is called the "$20 Lucky Bamboo".
     
  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I would return it, why settle if it,s not exactly what your looking for!
     
  11. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    This is the BEP Photo/Advertisement from the BEP Store website;

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    With 8,888 printed, I doubt it will sell out anytime soon. This is the one I received;

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  12. newcoinguy

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  13. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    That's a pretty nice one without any sore thumbs sticking out. I have a bunch that are nice, but the one I got today absolutely sucks? But like I said above it's probably like the mint, your going to get a POC(Piece of Crap? BEP is Bureau of Engraving & Printing. You know, the people that make "Paper Money" in the States.) out of every umpteen bills or coins you order.
    MPC is right! I should send it back, but I showed my wife and she didn't say anything bad about it, however she has never seen a big face ten without color and declared it as fake LOL? So now I'm on the fence again! Dag-Nam-It!
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    You have to ask yourself this question, if someone wanted to take a look at it outside
    The frame would you still be proud of it?
     
  15. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Believe me I was MPC, but I just let my wife decide. I showed her the problem area, and said I'm nuts and ask me If really wanted to go through the hassle of getting an RMA and mailing it back.
    Any-who, I roughed frame it this evening. (Still need to remove all the dust, and cut backers, and seal it)
    Oh and the 32 bill sheet looks insane in a frame. I have a two inch thick border, and with the frame measuring 3'x2' I have loads of room to put star note or classic notes around it.

    Much appreciated for all the responses!!! Thank You :thumb:
    However I'm not going to Deep it in a solution and see if it tones??? Anyone know what that's all about???

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  16. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I'm guessing that deep means dip, as in "dip it in a solution and see if it tones"
     
  17. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    No doubt you are correct, and I bet it was intended as a joke, do you think?
    I have not read of this and will wait to see..
     
  18. Moonshine

    Moonshine ....................

    ronterry-Find out what it's going to cost you to send it back and get another note. Being that these notes are printed solely for this reason, why shouldn't they be the highest quality. At minimum, I'd contact the BEP and see whay they say.
     
  19. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Yeah you guys are right! They should be the highest quality, at the very least get a little inquiry going? I mean someone loaded it in a sleeve, and you would think they noticed it.
    I took a tour of the DC plant and the gift shop about a month ago and they were very layed back, so I can't imagine they didn't have time on there hands? We had all but five people on the tour including myself!

    BTW: I put two & two together on the toning deal, and the guy slandered me on another thread. It appears he thinks I artificially tone coins for a living? Hopefully I set this hole deal straight? http://www.cointalk.com/t161051-3/
    He is about the tenth person that got their feathers all bent out of shape, cause they didn't read the original thread completely and took a lot of it out of context. If I could go back and do it all over again, I wouldn't said a thing!
     
  20. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    But they aren't printed solely for this reason. Check the monthly production reports--the serial numbers on this district went clear up to DB51200000B. These DB8888xxxxA notes were part of the regular production, printed in December 2004. The BEP just substituted star notes for them and saved them to sell in the "Lucky Money" folder (though it sure took them a long time to get around to it!).

    Nearly all of the "Lucky Money" products contain notes from the regular circulation-issue print runs; the BEP just saves out these particular serial numbers for collector sales. So we wouldn't expect these to have any higher quality than the typical uncirculated straps we can get at the bank....

    Small amounts of ink transfer like this are common on $10's of this design generation (notice that the spots all line up with some of the darkest parts of the printing on the back of the note). This is exactly the sort of quality I'd expect from this product. If you've ordered others in the past and gotten exceptionally nice ones, *that's* what surprises me. :cool:
     
  21. jasontheman07

    jasontheman07 New Member

    Well it says right here on their sales page:
    http://www.moneyfactorystore.gov/10luckylion.aspx

    "The “Lucky Lion” features a crisp uncirculated Series 2003 $10 Federal Reserve Note with a serial number beginning with “8888.”"

    Is that the one you bought? It should be crisp and uncirculated right?
     
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