What will PCGS say? Coin 7 of 10 -- 1842 Large Cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Leadfoot, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Same game, different coin.

    What do you think PCGS will grade this coin (or if you think they won't, why)?

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    Here's a bit of a hint (or is it?): It was in an ANACS VF 35 slab before I cracked it out -- one of the thin blue ones (after the old small white ones, and before the new yellow ones). Graded a bit more than 5 years ago, I bought it on TeleTrade for $90 in April of 2006.

    What will PCGS say?
     
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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Same as ANACs - they got one right. A very nice VF-35 coin. Not quite as much wear as the other coin.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll guess XF-40. Would have said 45 if not for the ANACS grade. Nice coin.
     
  5. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    again not familiar but dont mind educating myself and think it would be XF40
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I will try XF-40 also.
     
  7. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    I'm in for XF-45
     
  8. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Cleaned, just as the prior one was. I will go XF40, though.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's in slightly better shape than the other one so I'd go up 1 - 35 for me 40 for PCGS. Can't tell for sure, but it looks like it may been oiled a while back.
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Few more hours to comment. Will update thread with details later this evening.
     
  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice cent , EF-40 , doesn't look cleaned to me .
    Rusty
     
  12. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    XF40 anyday, maybe XF45
     
  13. G-man422

    G-man422 Member

    I would say an XF-45 grade from PCGS.
     
  14. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    I've looked and looked at this coin and something bothers me.....Can't put my finger on it.
    I like the XF-45 I said earlier, but this may very well be a No Grade.
    ......maybe tooling because the wear seems very uneven?????
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    PCGS graded the coin 45. Kind of surprising to me. I had it as a VF coin too -- primarily because of a lack of luster. So this coin upgraded 10 points from it's old ANACS slab.
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Market grading ?
    Rusty
     
  17. tommybee

    tommybee Junior Member

    Good for you on the grading. I looked at it and made my decision before reading the posts and conclusion. I had it as coming back as Genuine Cleaned. I don't think PCGS does the "cleaned AU details" like NGC.

    I see a lot a crap/dirt in the devices and the luster is very impaired and uneven. That's why I think it was cleaned. However, the guys at PCGS disagree. I'm thinking that their opinion carries a little more weight in the numismatic community than mine..... Ha!
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Thanks for the kind words, Tommy. I may have got one here. From the $90 I paid for it, PCGS price guide calls it a $150 coin in 40. Who said you can't get good deals on TeleTrade? ;)

    As an aside, and to touch on something you mentioned in your second paragraph, PCGS doesn't grade coins "cleaned" and "not cleaned" as if it's a binary decision. They grade something market acceptable or not. There's a very subtle but real difference. There are plenty of cleaned coins in PCGS holdes, but they need to be attractive and relatively well done (i.e. market acceptable).

    All of the above IMO, of course. :)
     
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