What does this 1828 bust half grade?

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  1. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    School me... I don't know much about this series, but there are parts of the hair and eagle's wings that appear to be worn more than just a touch?
    Are they just spots where the strike is characteristically soft in this series? I honestly don't know how much detail to expect, but if it is as much as I imagine, this is an AU coin without a doubt.

    Very nice. Great eye appeal. I might forego the TPG as well if it were mine.
    Personally, I say AU55, but like I said, I am novice to this series/era.
     
    ratio411, Mar 19, 2011
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd buy that coin at AU-58 money all day long , even if it gets a 58 it'll most likely sell for 62 money .
    Rusty
     
    rzage, Mar 20, 2011
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  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Quite a few bust halves come with weak strikes , this one looks better than average .
    rzage
     
    rzage, Mar 20, 2011
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  5. smokeriderdon

    smokeriderdon New Member

    Slight wear on the hair above ears, and on the top of the wings, so yep, AU58.
     
    smokeriderdon, Mar 20, 2011
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think this coin is a good example to illustrate to difference between what weakly struck areas and areas with slight wear look like. As I have tried to explain before, both areas will have a different color than the lusterous areas near to them. This makes it easy to spot both.

    However, there is also a color difference, as well as a difference in the texture of the metal itself, between a weakly struck area and an area with light wear.

    In the pics below, the areas circled in turquois are weakly struck. The areas circled in red have light wear.
     

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  7. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Difficult GD to say the least...
     
    Ripley, Mar 20, 2011
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not really. Once you see it enough times you recognize the differences at a glance. It's called experience.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 20, 2011
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  9. 1902Morgan12

    1902Morgan12 New Member

    I'm not very familiar with this series but by first glance i was also thinking AU. Could the stars on the obverse also be considered weakly struck. The only one that seems to look good is the one right above LIBERTY, the rest seem to be flat.
     
    1902Morgan12, Mar 20, 2011
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  10. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    We are in AWE of your experience, knowledge, opinions and wisdom.
     
    Irish2Ice, Mar 20, 2011
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  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    We're not worthy! :D Just had to say it GD. ;)

    Good stuff! :thumb: As far as the grade goes, I will say AU58, very nice but it's not gem. It's really difficult to guess what kind of push the TPG's will give tho'. Very nice!!
     
    fretboard, Mar 20, 2011
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  12. JustinHoward

    JustinHoward YoungNumismatist

    I would have to go with 60, but most likely it'll end up getting something in the 61-63 range.
     
    JustinHoward, Mar 20, 2011
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes the stars are weak. But I was not trying to illustrate just any weakly struck areas. Rather what I was trying to point out was the differences in the color of the metal. You see, certain parts of the coin, like the circled hair curls, the eagle's head, wing tips and talons, appear to be flat. That flatness in those areas can be caused by two things - wear or a weak strike. And the only way you can tell which caused it is by the color of the metal. And the difference in the color is only going to be a slightly different shade of gray. The color that wear produces is the slightly darker shade.

    That darker shade is most easily seen in the areas I have marked. Compare the color of the curls to the high point on the cap that I have circled for example.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 21, 2011
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  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Have you got a grade on this yet?
     
    rlm's cents, Apr 22, 2011
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  15. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    Grade?
     
    HULLCOINS, Dec 1, 2011
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  16. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Shoot sorry guys. This coin went 58... I'll see if I can find a pic in the holder. It's long gone tho. I was slightly surprised. It was one of those AU63 type coins.
     
    LostDutchman, Dec 1, 2011
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  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    +1 :)


    Oops.....Mat just posted. Never mind........
     
    green18, Dec 1, 2011
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  18. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    Sorry, I was searching for submission results threads and came across this one. Thanks for sharing
     
    HULLCOINS, Dec 1, 2011
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  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Gotta keep the ol' boy honest Henry. :) Of which we all know he is beyond any doubt.........
     
    green18, Dec 1, 2011
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  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    ANACs grade AU-58 tpg grade MS 62 . Great looking bustie .
     
    rzage, Dec 1, 2011
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  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Dang Dutch , that's one of the best 58s I've seen . I'd pay AU-58 prices for that all day long . Nice coin .
     
    rzage, Dec 1, 2011
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