1910 Matte Proof Lincoln

Aloha everyone. I've been playing around with my camera and got some decent photos of my 1910 MPL. Tell me what you think.









This coin has given me the most trouble to capture because of it's toning and somewhat darker color than most of my other Lincoln cents. It's still one nice MPL!

 

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Nice coin!

 

Too bad about the finger print! Nice coin, otherwise.

 

MPL's are gorgeous coins. Someday maybe I will manage one.

 

Very nice I wish I had one of them, I think you should give me that

 

Thanks for sharing this one!

1910 is a Gem:thumb: that I wish I owned.

 

It looks like a finger print, but I don't think it is. But it's still a beautiful coin.


Does anyone else think that is a finger print? Because if it is, I'm going to be mad. PCGS NEEDS to start using gloves.

 

Why would you automatically blame PCGS? Might of been anyone of the previous owners of the coin before it was slabbed

Matte Proof are quite beautiful especially when they start toning. I also think its a fingerprint

 

If it is a print, I doubt PCGS was at fault. More than likely the source and result are from years ago. Still very nice coin. It takes quite a battle to get good colorful images of these mpls. Everything has to be in just the right spot, otherwise you have glare and little or no great color. It takes work and patience. Just keep moving things around and looking through the viewfinder.

 

I have a wheatie with what looks like a fingerprint also. I know that there is a way to lift the fingerprint, carbon dating? I just recently saw a new technique where they pulled fingerprints from old shell casings using new technology. The exact procedure escapes me but it involves having the left over acidic properies left on the copper from when it was touched. This allows the fingerprint to be seen and lifted, I am guessing the same thing happened here but naturally.

The print looks engrained IN the metal, you can't wipe it off. Lord knows I tried on mine. So that is my guess as to what it is. I also received a 2010 kennedy half set. On the S Mint Proof, there is a fingerprint! I can't get the capusle off to attempt to wipe it off, or examine it any closer. UNCIRCULATED my A&!

I blame a certain home shopping network on that one. (My mistake) Don't any of these so called professionals wear white gloves when breaking apart these sets?

 

I can't really tell if you have captured the true beauty of the coin in your photograph. I'll send you my address & you can send me the coin so I can accurately compare it to the photo. I'll get the coin back to you when I am "finished looking at it". Don't worry, I will keep it locked-up at the bank & only take it out to look at it occasionally. It will be kept as safe as all my coins and I won't even charge you for this storage service.....

Very nice picture & very nice coin.

 

Well, why would PCGS slab a coin with a finger print? Plus they don't use gloves when handling coins, like they should. So it must have been them. I can't seem to find a nice MPL.....bought one with PVC damage, now one with a finger print. That obvious finger print probably drops the value alot.

 

"Lifting" is not the removal of a fingerprint, but a process of copying the print for forensic purposes. The print remains after lifting.

 

This post has nothing to do with my appreciation of the OPs nice coin.

I read a story once (I believe it was written by Arnold Margolis) where they described a special visit they made to the mint. The story was published either in Error Trends Magazine or perhaps it was described in the Plaid Book. It was quite a long time ago (maybe the mid 1970s) before it was commonplace to visit and see the goings-on inside mint production. They inspected the area where proof coins were being inserted into plastic holders. All the proof coin handlers were wearing gloves during their visit. One of the handlers was allegedly seen eating greasy/salty potato chips with the gloves on....

 

Crop your pics down and get more light to the surface. You need a desk lamp that you can freely move around and adjust it's height and angle. I bought one at Lowes a couple years ago with a 6500k lamp that does wonders. I also use camera angles to bring out the colors. I take all my pics freehand, there's no need for copy stands and tripods unless you're trying to capture huge images with perfect clarity. In general, those just shackle you to a fixed postion which limits what you can do.

Here's examples of my slab pics:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320671355965&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320650529033&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT

 

I think those types of images are fine for selling on eBay and other venues for selling toners. I have a feeling that Coinguy56 plans on holding on to his MPL and wants a clear, focused image, complete with as much toning as can be captured. I know it's possible..... challenging but possible.

 

It does appear to be a fingerprint to my eye, and there's no reason why PCGS should body bag a coin with one, IMO. Certainly, it should be taken into account in grading, but there are many, many examples of fingerprinted coins in slabs -- many much worse than the one posted by the OP.

 

Those prints often appear AFTER the coin is slabbed. One of the reasons I rinse ALL of the coins I put in airtites with acetone first.

 

It's better to keep them certified and slabbed with a grade than remove it and put it in acetone and alter the color. Plus you rinse the coins off in water? I do plan on holding onto the MPL's, its just that I hate that finger print.

 

Imo, it's definitely a fingerprint. As a few people have stated, it's very possible the fingerprint wasn't visible when the coin was graded. It's also possible it was visible, and I agree with Leadfoot, while a fingerprint should be taken into account, it isn't grounds for a automatic bodybag.