1943 Steel Lincoln Wheat Cent with/ Doubling on "D" mint mark

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by LarryLove50, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Look Larry….. Let me just shoot straight with you here. I wasn’t going to do this, but it’s been a long day and I am perhaps not making my most rational judgment at the moment.

    Fist off, all these guys that have offered up their advice on all four pieces you have posted are seasoned coin folks. People that have been doing this for decades. Myself, five decades. These guys offer their observations for absolutely nothing in return. No, we aren’t always correct, but I would trust any one of their judgment any day of the week on my collection and I do own a fine collection. This is what we do. We live, eat, breathe and study coins. So perhaps a little modicum or appreciation rather than disdain may be appropriate here.

    Secondly, when a new guest arrives to a well attended home, it is far more appropriate to show a bit of humility towards the regulars until you are better known and accepted among them. That goes a long way toward acceptance and respect in the long run.

    There, I said it. Take it for what it’s worth or don’t. Makes no never mind to me. I would rather see new posters here appreciated for what they bring to this party.
     
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  3. LarryLove50

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    Here's two different looks. Just different lighting, but sure you see the re-punched mint mark either way.
     

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  4. LarryLove50

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    Here's two different looks; just different lighting, but I'm sure you see the re-punched mintmark.
     

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  5. LarryLove50

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    Here's two different looks; just two different lighting; but I'm sure you see the re-punched mark.
     

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  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Looks more like machine doubling, flat and shelflike. The 4 in the date has the same look which indicates this is MD
     
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  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The 43 and mm absolutely have the characteristics of shadowing from being reprocessed. There is nothing can be attributed as an RPM. I would strongly suggest you Google some pics of reprocessed steel cents and study them instead of making unsubstantiated (and incorrect) assertions

    As others have said, you've received responses from many members who have been collecting for decades. In addition, they are extremely knowledgeable regarding the minting and and die making processes and demonstrate that credibility and knowledge daily on here by helping new collectors. These ARE NOT "some guy at the end of the bar" offering a sketchy opinions

    If you already know what the answer is based on your experience, why bother asking the question?
     
  8. Lostinspace

    Lostinspace Member

    I love Larry.
     
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  9. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    I'm Asking to show Someone how easy it is to receive a NEGATIVE RESPONSE when you're trying to accomplish your ENDEAVOURS, without people even Knowing You or what You really Have to offer. I'm showing them JUST how Wrong most of You are; When ASSUMING!!! This is in FACT a Legit "1943 Steel/Repunched Mint Mark Penny", it has already been Appraised, since EVERYONE know so MUCH. That's WHY I stay away from SITES like this, to much HATING and DISRESPECT going on for ME. Now Go Back To LEARNING COINAGE.
     
  10. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    And Larry "Loves" You Back!!! Believe That.
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Is that from one of your Etsy buddies?
    They surely know what they are talking about.
    We get folks like you that are simply snowflakes all the time. Asking for opinions with terrible photos. Then when they don't get the answer, they want they blow up and get mad. Then tell us that we don't know anything, and you are the best numismatist since sliced bread.
    You have shown zero proof of your claims
    Larry, we all know you won't because we are right. This is a common occurrence with Know it all's.
    Good luck Larry, and maybe pick up a book on the minting process.
    You can start here, Wexlers site.
    It a good resource for beginners on the coining process. What Doubled Dies are and what worthless doubling is.
    IF you want more references just ask. We only want you to be knowledgeable.
    http://doubleddie.com/1801.html
     
  12. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    Love Ya!
     
  13. Newbee03

    Newbee03 Well-Known Member

    Dude! Why all the hostility here! If you were so knowledgeable about what you had you wouldn't have posted it looking for answers and honestly if you put all the years from.the seasoned collector's here together it would be a few hundred year's Wich is way more knowledge then me or you could fit in one Brain. They wouldn't stear you wrong with anything be humble! And thankful that there is people like them still around willing to help
     
  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Smirk.
    No you don't?
     
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  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @LarryLove50
    Against my better judgement, I'm going to take the time to show why your coin isn't an RPM and how to identify them.

    The following sites have comprehensive listings of all the known 1943D RPMs. These were discovered and documented by error specialists that have earned the respect of the numisismatic community. I'm sure you fully understand the minting and die making processes since you have been telling us of your expertise in Numismatics, but in case others are unfamiliar, an RPM MUST MATCH EXACTLY. Close/almost = DONT HAVE IT.

    https://www.doubleddie.com/887255.html
    http://varietyvista.com/02a LC RPMs Vol 1/RPMs 1943D.htm.

    If you think you have a discovery piece, have you sent it Wexler or Wiles at CONECA for inclusion in their database?

    BTW, you said you're RPM was appraised. Can you tell us by whom, and if they referenced any of these known examples or has Bill Fivaz has assingned it a new Cherry Pickers number? Also, many RPMs outside of CPG varieties are only valued at a few dollars unless someone is trying to scam a newbie on ebay.

    RPMs share many of the same characteristics as doubled dies. Wexler has lots of info in the various tabs that explains these. The following is are good examples.
    https://www.doubleddie.com/58222.html.
    https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html

    Larry, you have me confused. I see NO evidence of any split serifs. In addition, I see NO curved widening Of the mm that would be expected from an extra punch. I don't even see the flat, shelflike characteristic that is common for mechanical doubling (not considered an error). In fact, I see nothing but shadowing on the D as well as the 4, and a little on the 3 in the date. All I'm seeing is shadowing. And as you know, when you look at enough reprocessed steel cents, shadowing from the replating process is a common occurrence. On a related note, Here is a pic from Wexlers site that shows abrasion doubling (from a worn die). Also note the split serifs are shown in the secondary mm.

    dd3174ec70764d4bffff80b9ffffe417 (1).jpg

    @LarryLove50 could you please explain the lack of RPM characteristics on your coin. Many of us would love to know how this could be an RPM even though it shows no fundamental characteristics.

    Once again, I apologize if you're upset because I'm " not respecting " your numismatic knowledge. Just consider this info for others who want to learn. Thanks
     
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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    What's it Worth?

    100 DOLL HAIRS!




    :hilarious:
     
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  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    And the correct word is threw not through.


    :hilarious:
     
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  18. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    My apology. Thanks.
     
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  19. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    D/D South. Now check it out, O. K., look good.
     
  20. LarryLove50

    LarryLove50 Member

    Oh Yeah I Do!
     
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  21. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Still waiting for the in focus close up of the MM and edge
     
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