NGC Crossover Service Severely Changed

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  1. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    seems to me, all you gotta do is submit the crackout form ith your submission but I cannot help but wonder what brought this about.
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Yes, from what you have posted & what I have read it appears that NGC will only cross from PCGS slabs. I'm pretty sure that I crossed some PCI slabs in the past so it must be a new rule at NGC. Thanks for the heads-up.
     
  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Nope. The NGC Website states that coins graded by services other than PCGS are not elegible for crossover service. Either you can crack-out the non-PCGS coins or they will if you complete their crack-out form.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Should be pretty obvious what brought it about. The grading standards used by the new ANACS and ICG are terrible. All of the others always were terrible.
     
  7. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    I know PCGS has gotten fat & sloppy. Looks to me, that the customer is not always right at NGC anymore. Here is an example of PCGS slop. Note greesy fingerprint left on gold coin by employee.:cool: IMG_0189.jpg
     
  8. stoster38

    stoster38 Member

    Wow that is bad!!! Did you complain to PCGS? What did they do/say? I would have been very upset to get my coin back in that condition let alone a gold coin.

     
  9. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Not yet...I am just letting it boil inside of me. I am just to angry with them right now, to deal with them in a polite manner.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    How do you know it was an employee? It is my understanding that coins and fingerprints can appear after grading. While I am not saying it did not happen at PCGS I am just not sure it is the only place it could have happened. And why be mad - talk to them they might make it right.
     
  11. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The problem with sending the coin with the crackout form is that they will crack the coin out in order to grade it. This means that if your coin doesn't meet NGC standards, you will receive a raw coin in return.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes it is, they announced the policy about a month ago.
     
  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Ripley,

    Why don't you send the coin in for a grade review? If the coin no longer meets the MS-69 criteria, then you will be compensated by PCGS if I am not mistaken.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And in most cases, that's better than it being in the slab it was in to begin with.
     
  15. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Really Mike & GD. Can you give me some details. I have sent coins in to PCGS, but never for review.
     
  16. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

    I had to send on in for a "spot review" a while back, in my case for suspected pvc. If, in their opinion the spots don't fit the grade they will attempt to conserve the coin. If the coin after conservation no longer meets the grade they will buy it or pay you the differance between grades. I was told David Hall takes care of these and it could take a while - mine came back in a few weeks. If you arent a paid pcgs member they will mail you the forms. I didnt have to pay for this service, but did have to pay shipping both ways - in my case about $40.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ripley - the discussion is not about coins in PCGS slabs. It's about NGC no longer crossing over coins in slabs other than PCGS.

    In other words, if you send in a coin in a PCI, ANACS, ICG, NNC - any of the other slabs - NGC will first crack the coin out of the slab and only then will they grade it. And if they decide the coin is ungradeable because it's a problem coin, then it will be placed in a Details slab (a problem coin slab).

    My point was that it would be better for the coin to be in a Details slab, or even raw, than it would be for the coin to be in one of the lesser tier grading company's slabs that it was originally in.

    It has nothing to do with PCGS.
     
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