Sold on ebay, full disclosure & pics.....

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  1. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

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  3. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Double Denomination Error- Coin Fact Encyclopedia - PCGS

    Here's the PCGS of COIN FACT Encyclopedia below.
    http://www.coinfacts.com/error_coins/double_denomination_errors.htm

    DOUBLE DENOMINATION ERRORS
    One of the most expensive, popular, and desired types of errors are the double denominations. This error happens when a coin is struck on a previously struck coin of another denomination. Examples are a cent on a struck dime, and a nickel on a struck cent. The most dramatic are those with considerable design visible from the original strike. There are a few known double denominations with different dates. The error illustrated here is a 1999 Cent on a struck Dime from 1997- 2 years apart.
    The picture below is part of my AVATAR with Two full dates 1995 obverse, etc. A major dramatic details of error and variety.
     

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  4. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Went to an 83.3% from the buyers neg.

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    Says it all.
     
  5. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Well that´s what you get on ebay
     
  6. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

    She is getting her money back. -she still has not returned it to me though.
    wth?
     
  7. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Why didn't you wait to authorize the refund until she provided tracking info that she has mailed it back to you?

    I hope you've learned a lesson from all this ;)
     
  8. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

    Contrary to possible rumors, I am not stupid. Naive possibly but not stupid:rolleyes:

    I did not refund any money to her. She filed the SNAD and Ebay clamped down on my paypal account. As far as I know she does not have her refund until Ebay gets the return shipping confirmation.

    She neg'd me and still has not sent back the coin to get her refund.
     
  9. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The coin isn't worth jack, anyway, why does it matter? Gonna try to fleece someone else?
     
  10. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

    Harsh!

    Who let the troll in?
     
  11. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The troll has been here longer than you. Seriously, why do you want the coin back? It's not worth anything, it's a nickel that someone stacked some other coins on and took a hammer to.

    The only reason you'd want it back is to attempt to sell it to someone else.
     
  12. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

    :eek:
    *throws a cookie to troll* :eek:

    Never claimed real OR fake in auction because I did not know. If I was trying to do anything bad, why would I have started it at a penny, no reserve, and clearly marked that I AM NOT AN EXPERT. Buyer did not get it certified, she claimed it was a fake from an 'expert' but no proof.

    She SNAD'd against me with a clearly marked no return auction. I am not an expert, but after all the photos and looking around, I did sell it in good faith.

    He/she can have her $ when I get my coin. For all I know she/he could be scamming me trying to keep the coin AND the money. I am going to send it in to be determined real or fake myself.
     
  13. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    You're wasting your money, it's an obvious fake.

    I like how you edited the quote to get rid of the question I asked you as to why you want it back when it's an obvious fake. Keep calling me a troll, I guess when I call you out for unethical behavior, that's trolling. Whatever.
     
  14. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

  15. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

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    Astute observation there, Sherlock.

    I'm done with this thread.

    EDIT: Actually, one last addenendum. By calling me a troll, I think you're trolling. Attempting to incite me into saying something I shouldn't. So, I say, ol' chap, you're the troll.
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Did you bother to read the contract you entered into when you listed this item?

    If you read more, you will find one of the "conditions" is that you know the item being listed is real. I wonder just who is trying to scam whom.
     
  17. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    But you also didn't do any research into this thing before you threw it up on eBay for auction. I'm sorry you think we're being harsh but you started this thread, and opened yourself to ALL comments and opinions about this matter.

    As I stated, I sure hope you have learned a lesson from this. If not, then your future eBay experience is going to be full of disappointment.

    If you're planning on establishing an eBay business full time, or even part time, you have a long way to go, and much to learn, to be a successful eBayer.

    If this is not you're plan, then so be it. Either way, this is a lesson you should learn from and move on.

    BTB, this is from YOUR auction listing under the Description that YOU wrote:

    You clearly represented this as being an error coin, uncertified. So don't come up in here acting like, "I didn't know it wasn't an error" because I have a feeling you knew this all along, and you were hoping some bidiot would win the auction and not have the sense God gave an ant to take that thing to a reputable dealer to authenticate it as an error.

    Sorry, but this doesn't go down under the Nice Try category.
     
  18. thecigarnut

    thecigarnut Member

    I have to jump in here - although I do not agree with ebays 'buyer protection' It is a serious issue that sellers have to realize. It is a sad sad thing that the buyer did not research or even read the description (they admitted it) and then has buyers remorse. It is not the sellers fault the buyer thought this was their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow - you showed photographs, you gave what information you had about it and they still purchased it - IMO you did everything you possibly could. Misleading title or not, what ever happened to 'buyer beware' and know what you are buying? No one forced the money out of buyers hand and no one forced them to pay an insanely high price yet now the seller is being forced to refund all because the buyer feels they made a poor decision. Boo Hoo.

    EDIT: Multiple of the members have pointed out they could tell this coin had an issue, so its not like you put up a photograph of something it was not.

    We all know an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it - if someone offers me a 5 oz silver bullion and it has 100 mills across it and I pay spot value or higher for it, who's fault is that? This is the exact same thing - if the buyer choose an impulse bid (they admitted that in the email, only 10 min left on auction) and they get the short end of the stick that is the buyers fault only.

    As I said before though, Ebay will 99.99999% side with the buyer so the sellers have to watch themselves. If you have the funds removed from your paypal or personal account, contact your financial institution and file a non-authorization claim, it will take about 10-15 business days and they will refund you the amount that was removed since you did not authorize the return - NO ONE can force you to transfer funds (except taxes and child support haha) regardless of what the others say. It would be nice if whenever you felt like you made a bad purchase you could go and get your money back, but that dream world is not reality - as sad as it may be.

    I hope things work out for you and do not let them push you around - you did right (again, regardless of what others say) - if the buyer made a poor decision and you know you did right, don't back down.

    p.s. hope your husband is doing better, prayers and wishes with him
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Tukas' description clearly states this is an uncertified error coin.


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    Read on, it's outlined in red.
     
  20. thecigarnut

    thecigarnut Member

    You are correct - uncertified which it was not taken to a professional
    Error - yes it is not a 100% perfectly minted coin

    I can see where interpretation is key, but literally - the words are factual...
     
  21. Tukas

    Tukas New Member

    un·cer·ti·fied ([​IMG]n-sûr[​IMG]t[​IMG]-f[​IMG]d[​IMG])adj. Not officially verified, guaranteed, or registered; not certified: an uncertified teacher.
     
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