The coolest piece I have seen walk in the door in a while...

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I'm not beyond getting on both knees and begging.
In my early days I got to work both sides of the counter. I miss those days. Some of the stuff that walked in just blew me away and so many times you would never see the person again. Hope you catch that one Matt.

 

well mine was with a mintage of less than 20 so there

 

nice very nice

 

That is an exceptional piece.

 

Very cool piece!

 

Not something you see every day. Thanks for sharing Matt!

 

I disagree with your premise, Doug. There are several coins that have value, low mintage and don't belong to any set. For example:

1792 Half Disme (3 known in silver and 15 known in copper) which sells in the mid-5 figures

1804 Draped Bust Dollar (not really part of a Bust Dollar set) we all are familiar with their value

$4 Gold Stellas

Confederate restrikes of both the Cent and the Half Dollar.

and those are just a few that I could name in 5 minutes.

Many people like to collect pattern coins. They are rare and some (not most) are voraciously collected. They make little news, however, and for that reason are largely unknown in the hobby.

 

Those are the numbers known for the 1792 Disme which is a 6-figure coin.

The 1792 Half Disme is usually a 5-figure coin in most grades but there are hundreds of them out there (1500 mintage).

 

Thanks for sharing this one! Dutch!!!

Nice one Matt!!!:thumb:

 

I sit corrected. I was looking at the Disme mintages and values, not the Half Disme.

Both coins make my point as they are not part of any set, the mintage is low (a minuscule mintage on the Disme) and the value is high.

Thanks for correcting my info, Illini

 

These are dictionary.com definitions of the word set:

- a collection of articles designed for use together: a set of china; a chess set.
- a collection, each member of which is adapted for a special use in a particular operation: a set of golf clubs; a set of carving knives.
- a number, group, or combination of things of similar nature, design, or function: a set of ideas.

each of these definitions mean that a set must consist of more than 1 object and in that regard the Half Disme and Disme do not qualify as a set.

Just because it was made for circulation doesn't make it a set. It might be more accurately described as a series of 1, but a set by it's very definition infers more than 1 item are included.

 

Agreed.

 

Doug, I always try to listen, understand and learn, but that makes me question things (and to your dismay at times I have demonstrated this).

There are other Half Dismes and Dismes? They made a date other than 1792?

In reference to the 1976 coins, they make my point, they are part of a larger number of objects. they are a type of 1 year, but they belong to the sets (of more than 1 date). How does this parallel the Half Dismes?

We have talked about definitions before (perfect uncirculated) but the word "set" is not a coin collecting term. A collection may more aptly fit your description. The word collection can mean, 1 or a million objects. I maybe be rigidly thinking, but a set needs more than 1 object in my world.

 

All they did was change the spelling. It's the same size, weight, diameter, country of issue, face value... it's the same set.

 

If it's the same, Merc, then why is it not with the dimes and half dimes in the Redbook? why are they listed before the regular issue United States coins instead of with them? or at the very least included in the section with the other dimes and half dimes?

I tend to think of them as I do pattern coins, but that is my own definition, not one from any book that I have read.

 

Because it's the opinion of R.S. Yeoman or whomever edited his work.

My opinion is that they are the same. They were struck for and released into circulation, highly differentiating from patterns, which are struck and intended to be destroyed or used only privately as examples.

The copper strike half disme(s) are what I consider to be patterns... but the silver strikes were undoubtedly intended to be circulating coins.

 

Well we all love it when "Street Walkers" come strolling by ..... :devil: