Graded Coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by WheatiesFan, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. WheatiesFan

    WheatiesFan New Member

    why by getting a coin graded make it worth so much more.ive looked on fleabay at there graded wheats and alot of my coins look much better.so do you think its worth it?
     
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  3. EvilKidsMeal

    EvilKidsMeal New Member

    Alot of it has to do with the desirability of the coin. Would you rather have a crudded up, scratched featureless coin, or a flawless example? I'd say 99.9% of collectors would opt for the second option, or atleast as close to it as they can get/afford. Having it graded shows without a doubt (in most cases) the condition of the coin. Therefore, collectors looking for top quality pieces will have the proof they are looking for. In short high grades are most desirable, and having a confrimed grade is sort of like insuring the coin is desirable to collectors. Coins graded by trusted, top tier companys are much easier to sell.

    Rarity also has alot to do with it, however. A rare slabbed/graded coin is worth way more *(edit) to most collectors* than a raw common coin, especially since there are collectors who only collect slabbed coins.
     
  4. WheatiesFan

    WheatiesFan New Member

    ty lots of info...i really want to send some but dont want to waste the money if im wrong..i had an account on here before with the same name and have a whole load of my wheats in my albums.but cant get back in from this site.wow just seem were you lived been there so many times i was from the southside of chicago called the eastside
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It doesn't make it worth more at all. Anybody who knows coins will pay you the same amount for a coin if it is raw or slabbed.

    The only thing slabbing does is make it possible for you to sell the coin to people who do not know coins. And those people are not buying the coin to begin with. They are buying the plastic holder.
     
  6. WheatiesFan

    WheatiesFan New Member

    great answer gd ty
     
  7. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

    TPGs (third party graders) allow for sale of coins within some consistency.
    Consider trying to do a by-mail sale before TPGs. You may say it's AU, the recipient may call it XF.
    Now renegotiate the sale.
    TPGs give a general standard, especially for wire sales between dealers.
     
  8. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    You're so smart.

    Okay smarty pants, why do we drive on parkways and park in driveways?

    :D
     
  9. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Personally I would only have a coin slabbed, if I thought it would sell over $1,000. Less than that, its just not worth it. (IMHO)
     
  10. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    it is also true that a rare raw coin is more valuable than a graded common coin as well. The slab does nothing for the value.

    One should also note that on many coins the TPG is used for authentication as much as grade. A 1916-D Mercury Dime comes to mind. It is the most counterfeited US coin out there. There are more fakes than real ones. I would never buy a 16-D uncertified and I consider myself to be a pretty experienced and knowledgeable collector.
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Ummm - you have to drive on a driveway to get to where you park. If you ever get a mansion in the country your driveway might be longer than a lot of city streets. :)

    I think doug hit most of it. Plus with some slabs you can do registry sets.
     
  12. EvilKidsMeal

    EvilKidsMeal New Member

    Using your example of the Mercury Dime: I know the slab does not make the coin, as only a coin, more valuable, but it is more valuable to collectors to have it slabbed by top TPG because that authenticates it, unless stated otherwise. So yes the slab does not make the coin, but it does help sell them, so in a way a slab is more valuable. If that makes sense how I worded it.
     
  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Well, it's kind of the same thing that I said, but yes, I think you got it.

    Other than a guarantee of authenticity, the slab itself is almost meaningless to the value. Don't believe otherwise.

    Does the slab make the coin easier to sell? Absolutely!! Is that a value? Yes, it is better to have to work less for the same result, but that's the extent of it. The coin is not inherently worth more because it's TPG graded.

    So, yes, we definitely agree.

    I would also like you to understand that many coins in slabs are overgraded. It happens to most all of them eventually. People keep cracking them out and sending them back in until they get a grade that they can't beat (usually an overgrade) and at that point they finally stop trying for higher grades and the coin stays in the holder.

    This is called "The Crack-Out Game" and there are entire threads here on CT dedicated to it and the long term effects of the game on the coin industry.
     
  14. EvilKidsMeal

    EvilKidsMeal New Member

    Agreed sir. The coin is only worth what the coin itself is worth. No dispute there. The slab only helps it get noticed more, if you will, to collectors who crave quality. Situations like auctions can drive the price more than the coin is worth, that is where the authentication and the desirability of it comes in. But that's the beauty of competition, for the seller atleast. ;)
     
  15. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    The slab makes the coin look a bit better than one without it, but it doesn't add anything to the coin, except a close to near consistent grade
     
  16. EvilKidsMeal

    EvilKidsMeal New Member

    Thats not even entirely true, as mikenoodle stated. Consistent as in ballpark, yes. But consistent as in dead on, not always the case.
     
  17. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    That's 100% correct. I was thinking about NGC and PCGS in perfect conditions, not overgrades and "Yippee, my coin got MS70, as always" (You know who I'm talking about)
    Edited original statement
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I don't know if I fully understand what you're saying jcakcoin, but MANY MS or PF-70 graded coins are overgraded as well. Even from top tier TPGs.
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    He did, and I was just busting his chops, a widdle ;) :D
     
  20. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Why isn't a tire store called a wheeler dealer?

    Chris
     
  21. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Or a rubber retailer? ;)
     
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