Fighting with ebay regarding sale of USDA Food Stamps

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by tlasch, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    That letter says its ok to collect them, but says nothing about selling. It actually says any use other than collecting is illegal. Maybe ebay doesn't want to assume that means they are legal to sell.
     
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  3. Jamericon

    Jamericon Junior Member

    From the "Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008."

    SEC. 4115. ISSUANCE AND USE OF PROGRAM BENEFITS
    (3) DEVALUATION AND TERMINATION OF ISSUANCE OF PAPER COUPONS.
    (A) COUPON ISSUANCE.—Effective on the date of enactment of the Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008, no State shall issue any coupon, stamp, certificate, or authorization card to a household that receives supplemental nutrition assistance under this Act.
    (C) DE-OBLIGATION OF COUPONS.—Coupons not redeemed during the 1-year period beginning on the date of enactment of the Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008 shall—
    (i) no longer be an obligation of the Federal Government; and
    (ii) not be redeemable.’’

    SEC. 4407. EFFECTIVE AND IMPLEMENTATION DATES.
    Except as otherwise provided in this title, this title and the amendments made by this title take effect on October 1, 2008.

    After that date the coupons were no longer obligations of the U.S government. They don't care what people do with them: buy them, sell them, or wipe their own a***s with them!

    Find a copy of the act here: http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/farmbill2008?navid=FARMBILL2008

    The fact is that eBay has not done their due diligence on this matter, even after repeated attempts by sellers to inform them otherwise. Besides, they are often inconsistent on which listings they cancel: I have sold and purchased numerous coupons on eBay, athough they continue to cancel other auctions, like that of the OP's.
     
  4. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    No one is arguing whether it's legal to collect such items. I suggested to you there are other venues for you to Buy & Sell food stamps, as a collectible. EBAY's policy , albeit " outdated " , is still their position as it relates to these items. Have you checked other Internet Auction sites ? Perhaps one day EBAY may change the policy , but not today .
     
  5. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    +10 I can understand that bigjpst that is the first logical counter argument I have heard (other than the smoking at my house analogy!)
     
  6. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    You got it.
     
  7. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    It's the same story with most other online sites. I figure however, that since ebay has one of (if not the most) largest online consumer market for online auctions and since many other websites reflect that of ebay. The monster for this entire mess IS EBAY it would be best to convice EBAY
     
  8. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    SO say I convince THE USDA to write me regarding the sale on EBAY and they say it's legal what then? I have no problem writing the USDA another letter
     
  9. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Don't you have better things to do with your time? It's like going to war with Afghanistan, YOU CAN'T WIN! Find someplace else to sell your food stamps, for crying out loud.
     
  10. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    I don't think you will be able to force eBay to allow you to sell them. How many do you have? A million? I think the best thing is to wait until eBay comes around & sell at other venues until then...
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    What on earth makes you think eBay has to adjust to your desires? My guess is that you will adjust to eBay's regulations before it is over.
     
  12. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    You'll die and eBay will go on. Now who won?
     
  13. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    Taylor, Keep on fighting for what you believe! Do NOT let other people stop you! :)
    Steve
     
  14. brewerbonsai

    brewerbonsai Member

    Ebay's policy, it is what is. Probably not going to change their rules, but at least your trying to show them some flaws in their methods!
     
  15. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    The USDA has that policy, because whinos and druggies were selling thier food stamps for cash. This let them buy booze & drugs with funds that were supposed to feed them and thier children. As for Ebay, they are just brain dead and do whatever the government or thier llawyers say to do.
     
  16. floirdatinman

    floirdatinman New Member

    i wonder if a lawyer can help in this as it was said
    We have been asked by the USDA to not allow food stamps on our site. Because we can't verify the age of a food stamps and whether they can be legally sold or not

    Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/showthread.php?t=162635&pagenumber=#ixzz1GmGuSPdJ
    but so many of us have been told that is not true and e-bay has costed alot of us to lose alot of money just because they don't like what we have to sale
    i think we all should get together and find a lawyer and see what can be done to get back the money we have lost

     
  17. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Well I guess you had figured wrongly . I already read your other letter from the USDA . The facts stand as do the legal consequences. Please , feel free to do as you wish .
     
  18. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    sell the letter from the govt. and give the foodstamps as a bonus.
     
  19. mkoenig

    mkoenig New Member

    Haha Classic.

    Ebay has a monopoly on the online sales man. Maybe try Google they used to have a service that allowed you to list your items in their marketplace for up to 30 days, before having to re-submit the item again. May be worth a shot.
     
  20. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    In fact, the USDA donated a series of food stamps, plates, proofs, and more to the Smithsonian after Food Stamp Coupons were demonetized in June of 2009.
     
  21. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    That's the best advise anyone has posted thus far!
     
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