Help me learn to properly grade coins.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tlasch, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Agreed but I am glad you posted that one because it is quite hard.

    I figured luster was really important with grading. How about AU-55? *Fingers Crossed*
    If I am wrong that was my third guess so please for the love of god tell me as I am curious now
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Original luster is important in grading.
     
  4. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    While this is true, I am trying to do this for myself. So no other posters would be trying to grade they would just be posting pictures for me to grade :)
     
  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    It's actually a lot easier to learn how to, and to actually, grade coins that are in hand with the use of a 10x + loupe as you can much more in hand than from a photo, especially if the photos are not good quality pics.
     
  6. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    MS64 no FBL designation. Very, very subdued luster, bit it still cartwheels... albeit poorly.

    Interesting coin, I got it for 25 bucks, so it was a "deal" by ebay standards. You still have one more guess on the Morgan. ;)
     
  7. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    It then has to be MS-64
     
  8. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Wow Merc I would have never known at least from the photo. Being able to see the cartwheel does in fact really help. I hope I am right with the morgan!
     
  9. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    It's a 63. The S-mint Morgans from '79-'82 (IIRC) are really common in higher grades and are graded much harsher by the TPG's.

    Won it for $48 on Ebay. You CAN get nice stuff off ebay. :p
     
  10. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I was leaning toward the 64 i originally said, but 63 is good with the PL on the label too.
     
  11. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    This one is really hard (especially because of the Picture size)
    AU-58
     
  12. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Some of the cleanest fields I've seen on a 63 in a new blue PCGS holder.

    By the way, I should add the Franklin is in a PCGS OGH.
     
  13. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    So uncannily close it hurts. But way off on the franklin!
     
  14. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    This is a bit of a tougher Morgan to grade...

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    Photo kinda sucks, but that's part of grading with pics, eh?
     
  15. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I agree. When I first looked at those pics I thought you might have set the light in just the right position to make it look more than it is, then I opened them and enlarged them and saw the clean fields, not a lot of chatter on the relief.

    Nice buy.
     
  16. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Can you explain the Franklin and define TPG (Sorry for the N00b Questions)
     
  17. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Thank you, sir.

    For the record, the seller just scanned it and it came out like crap. 7 day return policy, so I rolled the dice.
     
  18. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    TPG Third Party Grader, PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG.
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I think you rolled pretty good. ;)
     
  20. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The Franklin, while lacking major luster, is technically a very clean coin, and with good luster, would probably hit MS66. It's knocked back a bit, imho, by the luster.

    TPG = Third party grader.

    OGH = Old Green Holder... PCGS slabs with green inserts... they traditionally were a bit tougher on coins back then, but you can still find overgraded coins in those slabs.
     
  21. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Thanks I'll show the slab 1856_slab 2.jpg
     
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