Daniel Carr's 2009 Proof ASE

Next they are going to support the minting of 65-67 proof sets, oh and you just have to mint 65 to 67 coins with mint marks since they left those out too.
Let's just fill every modern coin series in with non-existent mint marks and years that were omitted!
Half the fun of collecting is learning WHY those years and/or mint marks were skipped and figuring out the social/political/economic reasons that they didn't put mint marks on 1965 coins, for example...
It's silly to make fantasy coins to fill in holes, and dangerous to do so without the coin being clearly marked as required by law.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MAKING! Yes, I think it is silly, but to each his own.
I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COINS NOT BEING CLEARLY MARKED AS SUCH.

 

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I love DC's work and think he has obvious talent. I liked it so much that I purchased one of his 2009 ASE proofs, which is a wonderful creation. I did question his comment about Chinese counterfeits, which are quite good in many cases. It is my opinion that DC has a few huge advantages over the Chinese. One, he is ethical, and two, he understands the US collector's market. The Chinese may try to copy his work but would probably not come up with the idea to create a 64-D Peace dollar or a 2009 proof ASE. It takes someone close to us collectors to figure out that one.

 

Well almost, if your other years are in OGPs you'll need one of these. Or if they're slabbed one of these. I'm sure you can find some extremely talented person that "makes them in Colorado within an hours drive from the Denver mint", to make it acceptable.

 

And lets not forget the Morgan collectors who for all these years have had to deal with the worst anguish of all. Holes from 1905 to 1920. Oh the humanity, oh the tragedy.

 

Well said . These can and will cause problems to the unknowing .
rzage

 

let me play devil's advocate for a minute...

what kind of problems, Rusty?

 

ff-topic:Daniel how did you get this coin to look like it looks??

 

That is sort of a "trade secret" process involving mechanical and chemical processing.

 

I'd like to mention the most important difference between what I do and what the Chinese do. Basically, what I have been doing is legal and what the Chinese have been doing is illegal. Their reputation is not worth the paper it is printed on.

The Chinese are making outright currency counterfeits by stamping items that purport to be United States one-dollar instruments, but which are in fact not legal tender.

I alter genuine legal-tender coins to change the date, without adding or removing any metal and without heating or melting. In some ways, this is no different than a "hobo" nickel carver (except that coin carvers remove metal from the coins - and "lightening" of US coins is technically illegal - but the practice is still embraced by collectors anyway).

The Chinese make theirs with the intent to decieve. They go so far as to make fake PCGS slabs for some of them.

The ones I make have obvious identifiable features, such as a large "DC" mint mark or a "1964" date. I made sure these identifying features were widely publicized on the internet and elsewhere (such as Coin World articles).


So who, if anyone, would potentially be harmed by a fantasy over-struck "1964" Peace Silver Dollar ? Or, another way to ask the same basic question is, who would pay a lot of money for one ? Anyone willing to pay a lot for one is going to have to know the story of the original 1964 Peace Dollars. And in that case, they would also have to realize that the item they are buying is either illegal to own, or a modern re-creation of some sort. So either way, they would knowingly be taking a risk.

I showed one of my "1964-D" over-strikes to an associate who had a few other Peace dollars. He knew a little about coins, but nothing about the original 1964 Peace Dollars. He was not at all impressed by my coin - he was far more proud of his older 1922 coin.

For anyone unsure about the status of a 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagle or a "1964-D" Peace Dollar, all they have to do is search the internet and they will immediately see a myriad of articles on these subjects with pictures and descriptions of my versions right up front.

 

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Works for me Daniel! I was just at your website and I ordered one of your "proofed" ASE's! I don't want to kick myself on the bum if they sky rocket in price and I don't have one. Besides, if they don't increase in price, it's still a great looking coin and it's silver to boot!:thumb:

 

Mike not to collectors , but to the person buying a gift for a collector . If unscrupulous people put them on ebay making some sort of claim , people will believe them . But as I'm writing this , and I do
think they're junk , maybe I'm wrong . Just really don't see any need for them .
Rusty

 

Ok Dan , as long as you stick to fantasy pieces , I agree they are little pieces of art . But with your skill you can be producing some fine art not copies . Do you do other sculpting or painting ?
Rusty

 

Dc

Yep, Ole DC's coins are are jewels. He has made a few for the US mints State quarter series (Rhode Island & New York) all I can think of off hand. Here is one that I own.

 

He designed the New York statehood quarter dollar, the Rhode Island statehood quarter dollar, and his design was adapted for the Maine statehood quarter dollar.

 

I really think DC's coins are great. If you make a fantasy piece, I think you wouldn't need a COPY on it. He tries to make sure that his coins aren't legal tender. Imagine if somebody tries to pay for something with that!

 

I haven't done any painting in the last few years. But I mint a lot of items that are totally my own creation - like Ameros, Hard Times tokens, and various medals. In fact, the only things I've minted that aren't my designs are the 2009-DC "proofed" Silver Eagles, "1964-D" over-struck Peace Dollars, and one of the 2011 Amero designs (which is my version of a Capped Bust Liberty based on Reich's original).

 

Apparently the DC bashers failed to do their research. Spend a few minutes on his website, read some reviews... just dig a little deeper. I personally feel it's an honor to have him as a member of this forum.

 

There sure are some lie on ebay.the best one I can think of now is:devil: "Not searched Wheat cent roll W/1918 Mercury on one end a IHC on the other":devil:

I was thinking the same thing about the 1964-D Peace dollar.

 

Fantastic artist, however if he designed something original, and I am sure he has, I don't know too much about Moonlight, then people not familiar with ASE's won't know there was never a proof issued. He should focus more on original designs and selling them as bullion rounds than copying someone else's... however it's not my place to tell an artist what to do. If he had any concern for true collectors and investors he would have avoided this design and ran with an original. He is talented. Cannot argue that. Maybe the US Mint should hire him.