It happened - I was robbed

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Speedy, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    no no no - thanks so much guys for the offer, but that isn't why I posted, and if all of the things that were taken, none were really anything of interest - that is why I didn't notice it all being gone for about a month. Like I said - the dealer still has most of the coins, and I will get those back - what is sold, is most likely in a collection of someone who will enjoy it much longer than I would have!

    Speedy
     
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  3. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I would suggest, if you aren't pressing charges, to confront the thief and see if you can help him or prevent this from becoming a common occurrence.
    It stinks that you had to buy your own coins back.
    Take care
     
  4. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I have thought about this after reading it the other day.. Sorry Speedy but I would have to either confront the person so they know that I know. Or I would turn them in and let the police handle it, The dealer has the name of the person I assume that sold him the coins so you dont need fingerprints etc.. Your NOT doing this guy a favor by sweeping it under the rug. Somebody else mentioned here that who is next on his list? Will it involve a home invasion next time? Perhaps the homeowner will be there when he does it and be able to protect his castle. (you know what I mean) This could end very very ugly, Your actions by ignoring this is simply telling him how easy it is to get away with something, even if he suspects you know about him now, nothing happened so... Where do I get my next fix.. that house, that house, or maybe its the Speedway down on the corner.. Not going to end pretty.. Don't worry about losing a friend, thats already happened, you had a friend, he didn't!
     
  5. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I have read through the posts and am sorry for your loss. I also think you should confront your friend as this could be a sign of another underlying problem - such as drug or gambling addiction. It may be that he is just a theif but If he is stealing from you more than likely he is stealing from other people who may also be your friend.
     
  6. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    I feel for ya Speedy, but I tend to agree with this advice.
    Enabling only makes the offender feel like they can get away with this sort of thing.
    In the chemically altered mind, they are feeling as though they are invincible, and getting in deeper.
    Add to that, there is also something to be said for personal accountability, which is bypassed when a problem is used to excuse wrongdoing. IMHO, chemical abuse shouldn't become a socially accepted excuse for breaking laws.

    Your choice on how you handle it, this is just my opinion.

    What did he say when you told him you know what he did?
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Folks NEED to understand that Drug Addicts, ONLY care about where their next "high" is coming from.

    They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal, they will USE your compassion against you. They will do ANYTHING except give up their precious drugs.

    Turning this individual in is probably the best thing that could happen to him as eventually he WILL graduate to bigger and better things. Of course, those folks that know about the addiction and continue to "cover it up" for his sake are doing nothing except ENABLING HIM.

    It's called tough love and once folks understand this. the better off all individuals involved will be.

    Problems are not solved by ignoring them and/or confronting them.
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I haven't read the entire thread. But it sounds as if you are the victim of a theft, but that you weren't robbed. The latter requires force and/or a threat. Sorry to hear it, though.
     
  9. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    to quote a very old english saying, "the twat sould be kneecapped"

    if you need any UK stuff to help you re-build your collection drop me a line.
     
  10. andyscouse

    andyscouse Collector of Brit stuff

    Seconded! The geezer sounds well dodgy! Drugs or not, some sound justice ought to be meted out; unfortunately, in the society we live in, these scumolae have all the "rights" (sic) whilst the victims are continually having theirs eroded.
     
  11. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    can you imagine that happening in kirkby or canny farm??
     
  12. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    Dear Speedy,
    I am sorry to read of your recent experience. I'm sure it has put you in a spot where you may have had to re-think a few things..

    Please forgive me it what follows is not appropriate or too personal, but I have thought about this since last night, and feel compelled to share with you this story:

    When I was 18 1/2 I buried my older brother, to an overdose of drugs. Not more than 2 months prior to his death, I had been approached by police officers to try to get me to work with them so that they could prevent his eventual death. They wanted me to do the undercover thing with them, introducing one as my 'boyfriend' etc.. I was too afraid to do that for my brother; it would have caused such problems for me, I was embarrassed that he was addicted to drugs (I was a goody two shoes myself). I loved my brother and thought that I COULD HELP him best by not letting them do what they wanted. Of course, they were after a much larger 'fish'. I thought very incorrectly, because of my own fear of 'rocking the boat', and my fear of what would happen when everyone found out.

    Two months later, I received a phone call from my father in the middle of the night, that my brother, whom I loved, whom I trusted, whom I always knew would always be there for me, was dead of an overdose. I did not see my father sober after that for 4 years. Literally. I chose my brothers' casket, purchased clothing for him, contacted every living person that I thought needed to know, and then I committed to pay for the funeral, which took me three years to pay off. Our mother died at my birth, so it was just my father and I..

    I never shed a tear. My guilt so great.

    To this day I regret very much not turning my brother in. To this day my father does not know that I was in that police station in Detroit, 16th precinct, many times, meeting about my brother, and in the end I wussed out.

    I hope you get my message out of this. Painful to remember, painful to think about.

    Jimmy was his name. He was 21 at his death.

    Regards,
    Lucy (Linda)
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Spencer, Man that sucks....


    Glad to see that you are alive and well though, my friend. :)
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Lucy -
    Thanks for sharing, and please know, that I do/am looking for ways to get this issue taken care of - I talked with another officer today and he agreed that it wouldn't be good for the report to be filed. I think we may have found a soultion and will plan on getting that started at once.

    The story you share is one that is both sad, and one I also hear often - I work for a funeral home and we see OD's quite often. We all are faced with choices we must make - with your brother who knows what would have happend if you had helped the police - in a perfect world, it would have turned out good, but we know it could have also gone the other way. I, along with some guys from church are allowed to visit one of the state prison, and the local jail.....while some of the guys do truely get their life back, and get off the dope....others....others, just never recover.

    The guy that did this to me has been in trouble before, and some of this stuff he does now, started when he was "out of town" last time -

    Thanks again for your thoughts - I do think about the choices made so far, and those that we are making as the next few days go on - the path we are on now looks to be the only way open at this time, but who knows....the only thing I know to do is try, hope, and pray.

    Speedy
     
  15. thecoinczar

    thecoinczar Member

    What an awful story to read! My heart goes out to you. What a backstabbing SOB "friend". I don't know what he was thinking when he stole that stuff. Like he didn't think you would have noticed. It really burns me up when I read things like this. I'm sure that you are going to be very careful when and if he ever shows his face up in your home again!
     
  16. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    Protect yourself and your Family, Speedy. If drugs are involved, anything can happen, so sorry. :(
    Steve
     
  17. andyscouse

    andyscouse Collector of Brit stuff

    "Canny Farm" ... now there's a location whose name I haven't heard in a while! "Canny Farm - where the rats carry flickies!"
     
  18. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Just throught I should give you guys an update - from the looks of things my way worked....he was bothered by the fact and came out and confessed about it to us. He offered to buy back the coins at the shop, but I just asked that he get help, and he is.

    I talked with the coin dealer and at first he wanted me to take them back, but I told him that I had been trying to sell those anyway, and to tell you the truth, I really didn't have that good of a record of that box, so I didn't know what all was missing and what wasn't.....I knew about handful of coins and that was it.

    So the way it looks right now is -
    The dealer gets to keep his coins -
    The guy gets help
    and hopefully, after the help, and he proves himself, I get a friend back.

    Guys - I know some of you still think I'm nuts - and you may be right - but only time will tell.

    Speedy
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Spencer, you've been an most excellent friend to this fellow by insisting that he seek help. Hopefully he'll turn himself around and be worthy of your friendship. I'm glad he listened to your advice and hopefully he'll get that monkey off his back.
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Speedy , glad things are working out so far . Hope he sticks out the rehab part and pays you back by getting straight. Then by making amends .
    I really respect the way you handled it . My hats off to you .
    Rusty
     
  21. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    So so sorry to hear about your recent experience, Speedy. I've heard about the same stuff happening around here, and it causes alot of damage on friendships, let alone between family members. I've never had an experience myself, and I hope I never do. Because I've had friends that were in your same shoes. After talking to them, they say it's not a fun thought when you first find out what happend to you.
    I hope it all works out well for you,
    Coinguy56
     
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