Pulled these from those wood framed type sets

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    That one has some nice coins in it! I literally have about 20 of the framed sets, all different kids. 90% of the ocins in them have been polished though. The ones i first posted and some rooselvelt dimes are about the only ones not polished :(
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    This Morgan looks much better than the one you posted with the green around the rim. Morgans just don't tone like that.

    Chris.
     
  4. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    Yeah, there are some REALLY nice frames out there that you can only get if you paid big bux for the whizzed coins contained in them.
    I would love to find some of those frames without coins, to fill with my own, but it just doesn't happen.
    Folks spent 100s of bux on them, and won't even consider breaking out the coins or letting any part of it go for less than what they paid...
    unless a dealer talks them out of it. I have seen the whizzed coins emptied out at coin dealers, but every one wants a fortune for the empty frame!
    So it's a no win situation.
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Oh man, that peace dollar looks sweet!
     
  6. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    My first thought as well. Really, really, really, really hard to find nice, NT peace dollars.
     
  7. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Thats interesting...I have been debating on if I should post all of these sets on ebay. I have no interest in them, especially because of the polished coins. Makes me think I should take out all of the coins and sell the silver as scrap and maybe I could get a decent price for the empty frames. Some of them are the 20th century types, some are indian heads only, some are buffalo nickels only, and some are "the silver series" or something, with morgan, nickel (i think), dime, silver flake, and silver certificate. hmmmm...
     
  8. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Well I do like the one i posted here, but the toning is only on the reverse. That won't fly in my 7070! I don't want to have to turn the page over to see the toning and I can't possibly put it in the opposite way! lol
     
  9. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    Thanks again. The Peace dollar is a 1926-S. I'm pretty sure I stuck it in the holder at the same time as the Morgan. The reverse looks like it has iridescent colors, like a fire opal. The obverse has a more bluish tone to it.
     
  10. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    When did you put those in?
    Maybe its tome to swap out all the whizzed ones in mine and put in nicer coins. Then put the frames in the attic! :)
     
  11. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    I'm not sure when I put those coins in, but it was some time in the late '90s. I had them in there untouched (probably about 10 years) until a couple of years ago when I decided to upgrade a couple of the coins, and found the fantastic toning patterns on the silver dollars. There was also a somewhat iridescent tone on the reverse of the Washington 90%, and the proof Jefferson nickel appears to have a blue tone. The Roosevelt silver dime is toned evenly on both sides because I had stored it in a manila coin envelope before transferring it to the 20th century set. The Lincoln wheat proof has psychadelic colors on the obverse, but the reverse looks like crap.
     
  12. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Here's the dime I pulled a couple of days ago from one of my wood framed sets. Can you tell where the tape was? lol The reverse is looking terminal though.
    wooddime.jpg
     
  13. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    I can't find any markings as to who made the cardboard... nor do any of the eBay auctions mention it.
    Heck, there aren't even any empty ones or unused ones on eBay.
    I guess the dealers fill them with whizzed silver and then BIN them for $177 with unclear pics.
    (There is one dealer with several of these BIN'd for 177, all look identical, poor quality pics.)
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Well anyone wanting toned coins like this simply buy sulphur laced paper holders, buy coins with original silver surfaces, put the coins in and wait. It will happen, always has.

    I like the coins, especialy the Morgan. This is simply the argument man of us have made with toned coins, it IS easily reproducible with some time. Your idea of turning the coin around will work, if you are patient. Heck, I have some albums of coins purchased recently that I normally would have taken the coins out of to protect them better, but now I simply am leaving them in since everyone wants to pay me extra money for some toning nowadays. I will sell them off someday when they are even brighter, and probably buy white replacements. Anyone in the market for some Mexican type coins with very pretty natural album toning?
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, if that coin was really worth saving I am not sure it could be. You could dip it, but I am pretty sure by the matte black color you will find significant surface damage. I have never dipped a coin that color without damage showing under the black.
     
  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Yeah I agree, the blackness is brutal and left the toning arena and entered the damage arena. If they had only moved the tape over the whole reverse!

    I am doing a little experiment this year... I filled a couple of "library of coin" albums and I am just going to put them in the attic all year. It gets pretty warm up there, so we will see what happens! I heard those old albums are a good candidate to "help' the toning process. I used all high luster-uncirculated coins, both clad and silver, because I am pretty sure the more lustrous they are, the more likely they will tone. I have no evidence to back that up! So it's gotta be true. I will be sure to snap some before photos.
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I will tell you for a fact the more raw and natural a silver coin is, the more it will tone. Overdipped or whizzed coins, or circulated, will not tone as readily, its just a function of the surfaces, if the surfaces are not smooth and pure silver, its harder to tone in my experience.

    I am not sure about your idea of the attic. Humidity is a key element in the equation, without humidity in the paper the toning does not happen. Its not heat per se, and actually too much heat will lead to AT looking coins in the wrong environment.

    How about this experiment? Put original coins in an old album, put it away somewhere where there is a modicum of humidity, and let sit for a few months. That should be enough for the process to start, and not long enough time to ruin a coin.
     
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