Insuring your collection

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by National dealer, Aug 20, 2004.

  1. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    To often collectors fail to have insurance on their collection.

    Collectors should have a complete inventory list of their holdings, along with price paid, and current value. Photos are also highly recommended. You should also list the method of storage, be it safe, safety deposit box, or whatever. Most home and auto insurance policies have very strict guidelines when it comes to collectibles.
    To minimize your loss, having a professional evaluation is also recommended if your collection has substantial value.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Most home or renter's policies don't cover your coins to begin with - I found that out the hard way :( But there are several companies who do specialize in just this type of coverage. But be sure to ask lots of questions - as the policies can differ greatly.

    One of the best - is offered to ANA members ;)
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Here is a list of companies and contact information that do offer this kind of insurance -

    Cleland and Associates P.O. Box 899
    Galveston, Texas
    77553
    1-409-766-7102
    Contact - Richard Cleland

    North American Collectibles Association
    2316 Carollton Road
    Westminster, MD
    21157
    1-800-685-6746
    1-410-857-5011
    Contact - Barbara Wingo

    Woller, Seabury and Smith
    1440 N. Northwest Highway
    Park Ridge, IL
    60068
    1-800-323-2106
    1-847-803-3100

    Hugh Wood Inc. ( American Agent for Lloyds of London )
    45 Broadway, 3rd Floor
    New York, New York
    10006
    1-212-509-4906
    Contact - Jack Fisher
     
  5. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Shipping insurance

    I have been looking around for shipping insurance so that my coins coming back from the tpgs can be sent via express service. It looks like this company--http://www.nacacollectors.com/memberApplication.asp -- is the main one to belong to in order to do this.
     
  6. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    Hugh Wood also covers shipping.

    Along with and sometimes in order to have insurance you need a TL rated safe. Gun safes will not qualify for coin insurance, at least that was what I found. I have a dealer policy which took a specific security system and safe to even start the process. My policy covers the SDB, my house, and shipping.
     
  7. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    If you are an ANA member, you are eligible for a discount through Hugh Wood. I found it to be really worth while. It costs me about half of what anyone else quoted me to insure my collection. About two months worth of savings on the insurance premium pays for my ANA membership for the year.
     
  8. stoster38

    stoster38 Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm an ANA member and was wondering about the insurance through Hugh Wood. For those of you that did get it was the process fairly painless? What if any documentation did you have to provide? Was the cost reasonable? What level of insurance did you get and why? I'm trying to decide if I should get it or not. I appreciate your opinions!!!

    Thanks!!

    stoster38
     
  9. FishyOne

    FishyOne Member

    I got a cheap rider on my renter's insurance that covers up to $3,000 in coins kept in my apartment. I have American Family Insurance and it added about $2/month to my premium. Well worth having for so little money.
     
  10. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Stoster, here are a couple of links for the ANA member discount through Hugh Wood:

    http://www.hwint.com/usa/hughwood/ana/index.html

    http://www.hwint.com/usa/index.html

    I found the process to be fairly painless. I think I emailed them my inventory spreadsheet with estimated value, they sent me back the policy papers with riders explained. I faxed them the contract.

    I used to insure my collection with USAA, and then some other outfit that specialized in insuring collectibles. Hugh Wood's premiums are about half of what I was paying with the others, plus they allow for the adjustment of bullion value, which I found to be nice since silver and gold have been climbing over the past year. In other words, I pay a flat premium, but if the value of the bullion in my collection goes up/down they re-imburse for the value of the collection at the time of loss.
    The other companies I insured through would only cover the value you listed for your collection on the annual application, regardless of the fluctuation of value during the year.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Stoster -

    The Hugh Wood policy I used to have was for $100,000 and the premium was only $200 a year. This covered my coins stored at home. It does cost more to cover your coins at shows, or if you travel with them. There was no paperwork or inventory thatI needed to send them. They only ask for paperwork on single coins worth more than $10,000 and on bullion.

    Hugh Wood is without a doubt the best deal out there !
     
  12. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    +1

    I have a bronze membership with him for my small collection, and the price is very reasonable. Adding a rider to my renters insurance would have cost 4 or 5 times as much, and it would only cover the price I paid (not replacement). That's a pretty big difference in value.

    Has anyone on the board had to file a claim? Can you offer your hindsight for things you would do differently / any unexpected roadbumps you encountered?
     
  13. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Things must have changed a bit as the quote to me was much higher. I was wanting this more for the SD Box and not travel but was still higher. You'd think it would be cheap for insurance at a banks box.
     
  14. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The major bank in my area will ensure items in their SDB's for up to $500k...
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Also, just to let anyone else who has a valuable library know, regular homeowners will cover books on coins, just not the coins themselves. Not sure why, but I was specific in my homeowners and have it as part of my premium to cover my collection. Its pretty surprising they will cover $30,000 worth of books stored at home, but not $5,000 worth of coins. Maybe they figure theives do not have strong enough backs, lol.

    For my coins, I keep most in a safe deposit box. Like others have said, the bank provides insurance on them.
     
  16. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    On my renters policy, I was surprised to learn that it covers up to $5,000 of collectible comic books, but only $250 of collectible coins.

    I guess there's a higher chance of theft for coins than for comics? But it would seem like there's a much lower risk for fire damage (especially in 1-2 hr UL rated storage).
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, however - you have to travel to the bank with the coins to even get them there. And they assume there will be travel from the bank to bring some of the coins home from time to time. I think if you ask you will find out that's why the higher price.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah they do, but only for some things - like fire. And have you ever asked a bank what you have to go through to prove what you had in that box ? If you haven't you should.
     
  19. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I haven't checked with my bank (just assumed that a list of the contents backed up by photos would work) - what does yours require?
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't even have one. But ask your bank this question - suppose there is a fire. The contents of my box are destroyed. I had $50,000 in cash in that box. (this not at all uncommon for many owners of saftey deposit boxes) Will your bank replace my money for me ?

    Know what the answer is going to be ? A big fat NO !

    Now try telling your bank that you had $50,000 in rare coins in your box and ask if they will replace those ?

    You'll get the same answer.
     
  21. stoster38

    stoster38 Member

    GDJMSP thanks for the info!! Sounds very reasonable. Your post stated that you "used to have..." so I take you no longer do. Did you feel that the insurance was not needed or did you find a better deal elsewhere. Just curious :)

    Thanks!!

     
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