Type 2 1981 Proof Set?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ronterry, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    I for the world can figurer this one out, but by the looks of it I might have a Type 2 1981 set???
    One things for sure they all look the same, and I remember reading somewhere that was a key to look out for...
    What say you?



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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    From what I can see, the SBA and dime are type 1. Rest are type 2.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    5 of the 6 we agree on, but are you are that that half is type 2? Those two are rough to distinguish, but that half sure looks like a type 1 to me.
     
  5. Snowman

    Snowman Senior Member

    i would have to agree ... the pic is kinda small
    take a look at this drawing, I'm not sure where i got it from
    but i keep it for reference. it might help
    1981.gif
     
  6. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    from what I see (and I have looked at more than a small share of 1981 Type II Proof Sets) they are ALL type 1. The serifs on all of the S mintmarks are all the same. There is no bulbous upper loop in the S which will be a different size than the lower loop. While one or two may be clearer than others, they are all Type 1
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Mike, I think you have your 79's mixed up with your 81's. The "bulbous upper loop" are nearly identical in 1981. See either Snowman's reference or http://lincolncentresource.com/San_Fransisco_Mintmark_Styles.html
     
  8. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    maybe I am not saying it well. The Upper Loop on an 81 Type II is larger in size than the bottom loop. These are all type Is. There are few things in the coin world that I am sure of, but these mint marks are clearly 1981 Type I. It's not even close.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The bottom serif looks bulbous to me. If you think of the bottom serif only - at about 9 o'clock there is a light reflection, but that is still part of the serif. And bulbous bottom serif is the definitive marker. Thus it's a type 2.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    While I understand what you are saying about the upper loops Mike, using those loops as the diagnostic is somewhat subjective.

    However, using the bottom serif as the diagnostic removes that subjectivity. There is no mistaking the straight edge vs the bulbous end.
     

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  11. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    compare any of those mint marks to the one on this cent. None of those mint marks look like this one:
     

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  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Sorry, Mike, IMHO, the quarter, nickel and dime absolutely do and I am still debating the half.
     
  13. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    What a response!!! I really wish I could use my DSLR but I don't think I can get it this close. Right now I'm using an old Canon with macro filter on the front.

    I'll try to get some better photo's, and maybe get the lens apart cause thats keeping me from getting a little better photo...
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are doing fine with your pictures. It is the lighting that give me problems on the half. The glare is right where I need to see. All you need do is change teh angle a bit.
     
  15. ronterry

    ronterry New Member

    Photo still sucks!!! I'm going to check my other camera lens to see if thing's can't improve.


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  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That is a type #2.
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    then, respectfully, we disagree.

    I submit that all of the mint marks in that proof set match and that they are ALL Type I. I wonder if we'll find out for sure. Here's something that you can try ronterry. Compare these mint marks with mint marks from the proof sets of 1980 and 1982. The Type II mint mark will be the same as a 1982. The Type I will be the same as the 1980. Compare them in hand and let us know what you think.
     
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  18. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    Well not to revive an old thread, but that is what I am doing because I just bought a set.....The Dollar is not, neither is the dime which is odd because I can not find any information on the dime anyway. Anyhow here are the pictures I have of what I bought. It appears the penny is the one worth the monies.. 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 06.JPG 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 05.JPG 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 04.JPG 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 03.JPG

    I am pleased as I would like a set. I went through my sets from 1981 that my dad brought and none of these match...so this one is now my best. Thoughts? How much do you think they are worth? 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 02.JPG 1981-S Proof Set Type-2 In Oringinal Mint Black Box Type-II San Francisco Proof 07.JPG
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Earthquake when you was photographing these Ethan? devil.gif
     
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  20. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Want more photos? I think they will help for a conclusive awnser. I will take some asap
     
  21. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's


    Not my photos - better than I can do anyway...
     
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