eBay vs rest of the coin selling world

Sorry guys - had to make some money to pay for some more coins...

here are top of the page results using 1880 S PCGS MS 65 -VAM -color -date as search criteria. it seems to have removed most of the varieties however I did not check. Its late and I wanted to post something...


It appears that these are completed sales using the search criteria above, for this period.

BTW the best time to buy this coin is; auctions that end on monday - mid day, average price = $126

October 11, 2010 - January 08, 2011
Avg. Price:
$147.35
Start Price:
$66.69
Listings:
60
Sell-Through:
55.00%

These are listed highest sold price to lowest on the first page. (there may be more)


880 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR MS 65 PCGS (#8605)
Yes
$224.99 $224.99 1 2010-11-12

1880/9-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS-65+
Yes
$210.00 $210.00 1 2010-10-28

1880-S Morgan Dollar - PCGS MS-65 Proof-like
Yes Bid $0.99 $194.73 15 2010-12-19

1880-S Silver Morgan Dollar MS-65 PCGS Rare!
Yes Bid $0.99 $181.50 13 2011-01-04

PCGS 1880-S Morgan Dollar MS 65 Silver
Yes
$174.00 $174.00 1 2010-12-28

1880 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR MS 65 PCGS (#8605)
Yes
$168.74 $168.74 1 2010-11-17

1880 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR MS 65 PCGS (#8431)
Yes
$168.74 $168.74 1 2010-10-24

1880-S MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS MS-65 RATTLER SHARP!!
Yes Bid $155.00 $167.50 4 2010-12-25

1880-S MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS RATTLE HOLDER MS-65 OGH
Yes Bid $164.00 $164.00 1 2010-10-26

1880 S MS 65 PL ANACS LOOKS DMPL SEND IT TO PCGS VAM63A
Yes Bid $0.99 $160.00 14 2010-11-20

1880-S $1 Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS-65 Rattler
Yes Bid $155.00 $155.00 1 2010-12-01

1880 - S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65 Condition
Yes Bid $149.50 $152.50 2 2010-12-10

1880 S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $150.00 $150.00 1 2010-11-14

1880-S Morgan Silver Dollar Coin, PCGS MS-65
Yes
$165.00 $150.00 1 2010-12-17

1880-S Silver $1 PCGS MS 65 Morgan Dollar
Yes
$145.00 $145.00 1 2010-11-25

1880 S MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS MS65 MS 65
Yes
$139.95 $139.95 1 2010-10-28

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar-Graded MS 65 by PCGS
Yes Bid $0.99 $138.25 15 2010-10-22

1880 S PCGS Morgan Dollar PCGS MS-65 * SHARP & LUSTROUS
Yes Bid $9.95 $136.48 19 2010-10-20

1880 S Morgan Dollar PCGS GREEN MS-65
Yes Bid $125.00 $135.50 4 2010-11-14

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65 Great Eye Appeal
Yes Bid $135.00 $135.00 1 2010-11-11

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar MS 65 PCGS
Yes
$132.99 $132.99 1 2010-10-16

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar MS 65 PCGS
Yes
$132.99 $132.99 1 2010-10-25

1880-S Morgan $1 PCGS MS-65
Yes Bid $117.00 $130.45 4 2010-11-12

1880-S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS65 MS 65- Very White
Yes
$159.00 $130.00 1 2010-11-22

1880-S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS65 MS 65- Very White
Yes Bid $0.99 $127.70 11 2010-10-20


1880-S $1 Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS-65. No Reserve.
Yes Bid $9.99 $125.33 7 2010-10-24

1880-S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR - PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $0.99 $125.00 8 2010-12-19

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $39.95 $123.09 6 2010-12-01

1880-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $0.99 $119.50 5 2010-11-16

1880-S Morgan Dollar (MS 65) PCGS OGH!!! FREE S/H!!!
Yes Bid $0.99 $117.05 9 2010-11-14

1880-S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR **PCGS MS 65** VERY BRIGHT
Yes Bid $29.99 $115.51 6 2010-10-30

1880-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65 Glows in the Dark
Yes Bid $109.95 $115.51 2 2010-11-15

1880 S PCGS MS-65 MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR
Yes Bid $109.00 $115.50 3 2010-11-04

1880 S PCGS MS-65 MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR
Yes Bid $109.00 $115.50 3 2010-11-04

 

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Hey Eye, can you run the same 80S comparative for 'bay sales "auction style" vs "BIN style".... ?

 

I did not toss the toning factor out. But when you look at both ebay and heritage you can see where the "toning" played into the final price. Those are the exceptions not the rule. I am not knocking toned coins - just that the flucuation is even more pronounced when it comes to that. As I said it was weird not looking at the coins - I did look at a few. I think one seller got about an extra 100 dollars by calling the coin PL. It exhibited signs of being PL but the NGC holder did not state that. Not saying the coin is not PL, but I did not study it real hard.

No I did not verify the dates - only went back 24 auctions. I think most of them were recent - late 2010 and 2011, but I did not confirm it. If you get to some of the rare dates and grades you would probably not find any sold on ebay - I think they limit it to 30 days on line. On heritage I think they go with the last 4 or 5 - I usually pull up the list.

 

PS - I also did not try comparing BIN's versus auctions. I also did not look at those that did not sale on ebay - you could tell some of those auctions were solely to gouge some unknowing person. I also did not look to see if they put it up with a high bin and then something different. I have seen them do that on ebay. I think the funniest one was the guy that had the coin listed with high starting bid. Each week he dropped the starting bid by $5 to $10 - then he got a bite. Boom the auction closed above the very first BIN price.

 

Fascinating.

Thanks for taking the time.

 

Baha, I think I can not positive, there is a crap load of data that can be looked at several ways. I am still learning.. On the list I posted you can deduce the sale type in the last row of numbers.

$224.99 $224.99 1 2010-11-12

Start Price End Price Bids End Date

when the start price equals the end price with one bid.... well


Ok... looks like 7 out of 16 FIXED PRICE sold over 90 days. $100 spread!

October 16, 2010 - January 13, 2011
Avg. Price:
$166.39
Start Price:
$0.00
Listings:
16
Sell-Through:
43.75%

880 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR MS 65 PCGS (#8605)
Yes
$224.99 $224.99 1 2010-11-12

1880/9-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS-65+
Yes
$210.00 $210.00 1 2010-10-28

1880 S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR MS 65 PCGS (#8431)
Yes
$168.74 $168.74 1 2010-10-24

1880-S Morgan Silver Dollar Coin, PCGS MS-65
Yes
$165.00 $150.00 1 2010-12-17

1880-S Silver $1 PCGS MS 65 Morgan Dollar
Yes
$145.00 $145.00 1 2010-11-25

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar MS 65 PCGS
Yes
$132.99 $132.99 1 2010-10-16

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar MS 65 PCGS
Yes
$132.99 $132.99 1 2010-10-25


ON auctions ONE THING IS VERY CLEAR _ Listing has GREAT PICTURES? Expect to bids to go high. BId on the crappy pictures and win at a lower price.

October 16, 2010 - January 13, 2011
Avg. Price:
$140.23
Start Price:
$66.69
Listings:
27
Sell-Through:
81.48%



1880-S Morgan Dollar - PCGS MS-65 Proof-like
Yes Bid $0.99 $194.73 15 2010-12-19

1880-S Silver Morgan Dollar MS-65 PCGS Rare!
Yes Bid $0.99 $181.50 13 2011-01-04

1880-S MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS MS-65 RATTLER SHARP!!
Yes Bid $155.00 $167.50 4 2010-12-25

1880-S MORGAN DOLLAR PCGS RATTLE HOLDER MS-65 OGH
Yes Bid $164.00 $164.00 1 2010-10-26

1880 S MS 65 PL ANACS LOOKS DMPL SEND IT TO PCGS VAM63A
Yes Bid $0.99 $160.00 14 2010-11-20

1880-S $1 Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS-65 Rattler
Yes Bid $155.00 $155.00 1 2010-12-01

1880 - S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65 Condition
Yes Bid $149.50 $152.50 2 2010-12-10

1880 S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $150.00 $150.00 1 2010-11-14

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar-Graded MS 65 by PCGS
Yes Bid $0.99 $138.25 15 2010-10-22

1880 S PCGS Morgan Dollar PCGS MS-65 * SHARP & LUSTROUS
Yes Bid $9.95 $136.48 19 2010-10-20

1880 S Morgan Dollar PCGS GREEN MS-65
Yes Bid $125.00 $135.50 4 2010-11-14

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65 Great Eye Appeal
Yes Bid $135.00 $135.00 1 2010-11-11

1880-S Morgan $1 PCGS MS-65
Yes Bid $117.00 $130.45 4 2010-11-12

1880-S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS65 MS 65- Very White
Yes Bid $0.99 $127.70 11 2010-10-20

1880-S $1 Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS-65. No Reserve.
Yes Bid $9.99 $125.33 7 2010-10-24

1880-S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR - PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $0.99 $125.00 8 2010-12-19

1880 S Morgan Silver Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $39.95 $123.09 6 2010-12-01

1880-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65
Yes Bid $0.99 $119.50 5 2010-11-16

1880-S Morgan Dollar (MS 65) PCGS OGH!!! FREE S/H!!!
Yes Bid $0.99 $117.05 9 2010-11-14

1880-S Morgan Dollar PCGS MS 65 Glows in the Dark
Yes Bid $109.95 $115.51 2 2010-11-15

1880-S MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR **PCGS MS 65** VERY BRIGHT
Yes Bid $29.99 $115.51 6 2010-10-30

1880 S PCGS MS-65 MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR
Yes Bid $109.00 $115.50 3 2010-11-04

 

Ebay has done nothing but help me and all my winning bidders..I do believe they are getting carried away with recent fees and such but im still 100% ebay when i auction items....I been to alot of online auctions since 2008 to compare and ebay has stomped them all in my opinion...I hope this helps you