i did a "no-no" but...

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  1. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    so curiosity got the best of me and i put some dateless buffalos in vinegar to bring out the dates. most were common (quite a few 1919), but one got me excited. it's a 1913-d type 2! it fills a hole for now, so i'm happy! :D

    1913-d t2 nic.jpg
     
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  3. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    if it was dateless but you could tell it was type 2 you should of left it right?
     
  4. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    i couldn't even see the mintmark on the reverse originally.
     
  5. Penny Fanatic

    Penny Fanatic Seated Half Collector

    No, type ones were unique to the year 1913, all of the other years plus some of the 1913's were type 2.
     
  6. Ryan625

    Ryan625 Senior Member

    sweet find! i wanted to get some bulk dateless nickels to bring out the date and start a folder with them.
     
  7. Nice find! The "no no" was worth it!
     
  8. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    You got me thinking... Hmmm I have a bunch of dateless Buffs as well. Maybe time to get a New Whitman Folder, some Red Wine vinegar (I'm Italian!) and have some fun! I'll mark the outside of the Folder as "Vinegar Treated Buffs" Hah! :)
    Steve
     
  9. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Hey, that didn't come out all that bad ! How long did you soak it and did you rotate it ? Details please.

    gary
     
  10. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    it soaked for a little over 2 weeks in white vinegar (2 weeks was my original plan, but ended up going on vacation right before the 2 weeks were up, so it got a couple of extra days). i changed the vinegar every 3 to 4 days. i kept it obverse up because i didn't know it had a mintmark, yet the mintmark came out too!

    i had a total of 8 dateless buffalos. some of them took about a week for the date to show, and were pulled earlier.
     
  11. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    Could anyone explain exactly how the vinegar works?
     
  12. coinhead63

    coinhead63 Not slabbed yet

    Vinegar of course is a mild acid. Police have known for many years that a gun with the serial number ground off can be identified by using acid to "raise" the number. When metal is stamped or impressed with an image the hardness is altered where more pressure (which results in a local hot spot) is exerted. It's actually the heat from striking that changes the temper (hardness) of the metal. Thats why you can "raise" a date.
     
  13. gviking

    gviking Junior Member

    Do you have any 'before' pics of the coin? It would be interesting to see what you got off.
     
  14. 1066merlin

    1066merlin ANA#R3157534

    Thanks coinhead, got it!
     
  15. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    sadly, no, i didn't take any before pics. i wish i had now.
     
  16. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    That gives me a project for this afternoon. Thanks
     
  17. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    I got a 1913-S type two kind of like this. Found it in a dateless bag. I never used vinegar on it but somebody probly did at some point. I cant really tell.
     
  18. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    i have a feeling that may be the only way i could afford one. nice find, nonetheless!
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And the vinegar method results in a much better looking end result than pieces done with Nic-A-Date.
     
  20. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    2 weeks huh?
    That sounds a little long. Does anybody know what the standard time of said procedure would normally take to see results. I have no intentions of doing this, just curiosity.
     
  21. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    i read on here on ct a week. after 1 week, no date was visible, so i gave it an extra week.
     
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