Going by the maxim that an AU58 is an MS63 with a little bit of rub. And this coin has a little bit of rub. This doesn't mean that PCGS noticed, of course...
Love the voting distribution on this one..... I really don't think this one is deserving of strong ms status,,, but given RLM's collection pattern, i fear the worst for those of us who held fast to our conservative grading standards on this one.... can't wait to see. Thanks once again RLM's for putting this thread out,,, your time, pics, and feedback I'm sure is appreciated by all. Have a super weekend !
I wanted to go with a 58 on this one without a doubt, but I've already gotten burned on another of these where I thought I saw wear but the TPG didn't agree with me. So I went 62.
I probably should not have posted these pix. I really cannot see the "wear" that appears in the pix - unless and until I put it under a bright light. It actually looks like it has nice luster for a brown coin with no evidence of any breaks. As for the grading, I can understand why some called it AU and I can understand 63 (and a 64), but how did so many come up with the others? The coin has minimal marks and shows some luster. That has got to be AU or 63 or higher. Since PCGS grades with a smaller light, they called it a 64. So when I said at lest one got it right, it was just one.
That's a head scratcher for me at 64 because of eye appeal. That's why I graded 63. That said, and looking at the slab photo, I can see why 64. Frankly, I wish you'd start putting the slab shots in addition to your close ups and just black out the grade -- it really helps (at least for me) to see the color of the insert versus the coin so a judgement on exposure/color of the coin can be made.
PCGS slabs work fine, but taking a pic of an NGC slab makes the coins look black or nearly so. I cannot find a setting to do otherwise except to make the slab so overexposed you cannot see anything there. You have even comment a couple of time how you thought the coin looked too dark in the NGC slabs.