World War II Era Coins

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Is that true that you can't understand the controversy around them? I find that very hard to believe. You may not agree with those who have strong feelings about them, but I do not believe that you fail to understand the controversy itself.

Ruben

 

why?

 

that is factually untrue by any standard that can be measured. It collecting Nazi German coins is interesting for the historical value, the first thing that needs to be done is to get a handle of what Nazi Germany did, and how unique it was in history.

Otherwise, what is the point?

Ruben

 

So what you're saying is, we should not collect any coins governed by monarchs (a form of dictatorship) either? A monarchy is a dictatorship. Napolean was a dictator and we find no fault in his coins. He was not even French, he took over the country and expanded it, with millions of deaths of soldiers that may or may not have supported him. We also collect coins from the era of the Romans, in which many, many rulers were evil. There were plenty of people who loved and followed Hitler. Not as many as hated him, but they still existed (exist). I AM NOT IN ANY WAY saying that what Hitler did was right, in fact I thoroughly believe the opposite. I am just saying that if you are going to not collect coins from one dictator, don't collect from ANY dictators.
Oh, and this marks out any money period because every ruler has done something bad for their people and probably morally wrong.

Thanks,
Tyler

PS: I would expound upon these things except that I have to get to class.

 

No idea where you got that idea. In the post you quoted, I merely tried to explain that coins are issued by governments, and convey the views of the issuing government. Now I have never quite understood why so (relatively) many Americans find nazi coinage so fascinating, but what people collect or do not collect is entirely up to the individual collector.

Oh, and Napoleon Bonaparte sure was French.

Christian

 

Well the Nazi's collected all the Jewish Articles, Talmuds, Torah scrolls, Hair, clothes, silver menoriahs, etc... that they could gt their hands on as they were exterminating them. Maybe it is the same instinct?

Ruben

 

Hard to tell for me. But I don't think it has much to do with "learning history". If that was the primary motivation, those nazi coin collectors should also find Empire and Weimar Republic coinage interesting. And coins from elsewhere in Europe from those years. And and and.

Yes, of course I have coins from Nazi Germany in my collection too. Just as I have pieces from my country (the Federal Republic of Germany), the GDR, much of Western Europe, and so on. Others many collect nazi coins and nothing else, others again do not want them or even trash them. There is no "you have to do it this way" here ...

Christian

 

They're also something that was used by everyday people to try to live their lives despite the madness coming from their leaders. The Nazi coins are part of history and not all history is nice.

 

I'm still reading this all. First of all the Soviets killed more people then the Nazi's. if you'd like i could look up the numbers for you

 

"Bad Guys who make Good Coins and the people who love them"

Sounds like something on Oprah.

 

I was going off the dictorial regime thing.
And Napoleon was born in Corsica. His parents were of minor Italian nobility ancestry. He was trained in France, but not born there.

 

I have a 1937 2 reichsmark

 

very cool roomiccube i like the wear on it.
in my opinion the more wear the coin has the better it looks

 

FYI Corsica is in France ..

 

... which was Genuese until shortly before Napoleon was born, and then became French, n'est-ce pas?

Christian

 

only if you want to include there 70 year history, and the stupid political decisions that forced millions into the Gulag in a half baked attempt to develop Siberia through the use of political prisoners. OTOH, the Nazi's started WWII was were directly responsible for far great death toll overall once you include all the causulties on both sides.

But you missing the point, and I have real cause to wonder if it is intentional. Only the Nazi's had the "Final Solution" and used industrial methodologies to tag, coral and exterminate entire segments of their civilian populations who posed NO political threat, and in fact for which they had no particular gain. In fact, the Nazi's actually hurt their economy and war efforts because it was more important to exterminate Jews than it was to win their war. And the result was an astonishing 50% decrease WORLD WIDE of the Jewish population, and the complete end of Jewish Civilization in Europe which had existed even prior to the German, Polish, Ukranian, French or English settlements of the same territories, nearly a 1000 years.

If you don't understand what was different, I can not excuse that as simple ignorance of the facts.

We're not talking about Gengis Kahn here, or Alexander the Great. We're talking about people who tried to fund their extermination activities by selling soap made from Jewish flesh, and lamp shades from Jewish hair.

Ruben

 

Which country would that be and why would you say this?

Ruben

 

Your comparing Nazi Germany to Israel? How can you explain that?

 

Not in Modern Standard English. In modern English, Antisemitism is defined as the historical and current existence of irrational hatred towards the Jewish Nation, and its people, including the Jewish Religion and other cultural aspects of their existence. And Frankly, it is hard to find a better explanation of your post other than classic antisemitism.

I'm sure that Doug is finding this thread way into the fringe of Politics and Religion.

But I would point out that it has been the recent history of this board that no discussion of anything relating to Jews, be it ancient coins of Israel, modern Israeli Coins, Nazi Coins, or even Jewish Themed coins that can be posted without a hefty spoonful of blatant antisemitism, and that is sure ans heck not Peter and Doug's fault.

Congratulations...

Ruben