Would you consider this attractive toning?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by oval_man, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. Oval, I was surprised you recommended auto color correct. In my experience, it doesn't do a good job of correcting color for coin photos, and even when it does get it pretty close, it doesn't nail it. The reason for NGC/ANACS slabs is the slight color cast of the insert (which PS interprets as pure white), and the reason for PCGS slabs is their opaque (and bluish) tint.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would agree. But, by the same token, there are many coin pics where Auto Correct does help make the pic look more closely like the coin does in hand. It all depends on the picture, and the coin of course.
     
  4. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I didn't know I was recommending it but suppose I was. Should've added, "at your own risk." I do it to get an alternate read of a coin, knowing that any image isn't going to fully represent the item. I don't like the "wan," red-yellow, slightly washed-out look that appears especially in Heritage's imaging.

    I tinker with Photoshop in other ways, too, e.g., searching for carbon spots (and generally assessing the coin's surface) using Brightness/Contrast, since carbon spots are non-reflective. As maybe a lot of folks here do, I try to get as full a read of the coin's surfaces as I can.

    Sound like you have a good bit of experience yourself. I find this stuff hard to talk about because there are so many variables and different perceptions.

    With respect to the NGC slabs (not sure about the ANACS ones), I would ascribe the slightly warm, dark cast as coming not from the insert, which I judge to be fairly white, but to the holder itself, which we've all seen vary quite a bit. The PCGS plastic is definitely harder to read.

    I left graphic design in the mid-90's, when web design was still fledgling and color compatibility between the various design and print programs (i.e., screen builds for 4-color process) began having huge problems. I'm glad I missed all that, frankly; I'm a very visual person but not much of a technician.
     
  5. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    He had it at $1,595 (or thereabouts) in a previous listing. I'm kinda surprised no one bought it, but then again, I don't think a lot of viewers would've been bowled over by the toning, esp. w/o seeing it in hand.

    The sales history of coins like this intrigues me. It had sold on Heritage for $1,150, then $1,495. Now, no one's touching it for $1,195. I wonder how much Disruptek paid for it? And did he buy it from the dissatisfied owner who won it on Heritage with no return policy?
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Prices have dropped significantly.
     
  7. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    20% ? Not really. There are plenty of coins that have dropped 50% or more in the past 2 years.
     
  9. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    You're right, 20% is not that much. I didn't have the sense, through Greysheet, that Walkers had changed that much this year; had only seen a few lower bids here and there over the year.

    I just checked PCGS; two-year changes are all over the map, with selected S-mints up as much as 100% and others down up to 50%.
     
  10. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Thought you might appreciate the final chapter in the recent history of this coin:

    Sold on Heritage in Feb. of this year for $1,495 in a PCGS CAC slab.
    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1137&Lot_No=472

    Then, about a month ago, in an NGC holder, no CAC, it was listed as a BIN on ebay by Disruptek for $1,545 (one week listing). Then $1,195, $1,745, and $1,695.

    Finally, it sold as a true auction this evening for $689.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150516872247&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    Someone's headache finally becomes someone else's bargain.
     
  11. au and ms coins

    au and ms coins Junior Member

    Really? Like what coins? And where would I be able to find such information? I guess I'm not really in touch with the coin market.
     
  12. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    finding a decent toned WLH is about the same chance as finding a decent toned peace dollar. dont see why the toning on the OP coin would bring any premium really.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I get most of it from reading the auction reports in the coin mags. But you can get it anytime by searching through Heritage as well.
     
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