Like Han Solo said.. "I can Imagine a lot" - I'd have to see coins pulled from rolls with blast whiteness like that before I believe that they aren't all dipped. Silver is very reactive...hence its use in Film...if anyone can remember what that is. Ruben
They also had definite,although light, tone. That is BLAST white. I don't think they come from the mint like that. Ruben
As I understand the history of Nuimasitcs, and even current practices by even grading companies, it is reasonable to think that they have almost all been dipped, if not all. Ruben
Actually, that is what I'm actually wondering. Doug has previously said that coins can be dipped such that you can't tell. I'm looking at this coin and I'm thinking it was definitely dipped. To me, it visually looks dipped. Ruben
Yes, you are correct about the GSA bags. I did not even think of them as far as quarters go. I'm still with the OP coin thinking it was dipped at some point.
+1 I actually have to agree. I am not saying that coin is not absolutely stunning, but i would bet my pants it has seen a bath. Market acceptable, sadly, but that's the way it is. If i had that coin in hand it would be promptly cracked out, and stored in an old Wayte albumn.
Just for the fun of it I posted this coin on the NGC and PCGS forums asking for opinions. Should be fun to see what folks say. This the post. Could it still look this white if it was never dipped? How could it have been stored for almost 100 years and still look so white?
It wouldn't matter if you were an investor because dipping a coin does not detract from its value. In fact it more often than not increases its value. At least as long as the person doing the dipping is knowledgable enough to 1 - know how to do it properly and 2 - they can recognize what coins should be dipped to begin with. 80% or more of all older coins there are have been dipped at one time or another. Including those in NGC and PCGS slabs.
That's Fine . Than if this is in auction, I assume you will not be a bidder . Part of what Doug stated is correct . That does not mean that all surviving specimens in this condition have been dipped. Perhaps this one was, it was done so that it did not damage the coin and it is market acceptable . If you look at the last image I posted , that one is every bit as brilliant as this one , I have more I could post , of this issue alone . Have they all been dipped ? None of these Blast white coins original ? Anyway, it's good to see you around again , we hardly run into each other here . Be well.
FWIW, I don't believe that it is normal for SLQ to be that color, even when new, even when freshly minted, and even if aged. I think that only way that a coin gets "Blast White" like that is if it is chemically treated. I don't know that as a fact, but that is what I think and was asking if others knew.
are you trying to say i am the biggest name in numismatics? almost everyone else disagrees with you more often than not
This can make a lot of difference actually. If you ever said a white coin from the east coast or midwest or south survived, I would be very doubtful. Now, if you say it survived out west in low humidity environment, I would be more likely to listen. Humidity is one of the prime causes of toning, so I could see a coin remaining white if it was stored out west. Only problem with most of these coins, like Doug has pointed out, is they are whiter than when minted most likely. Kind of hard to "reverse tone" with age, so that is why most people are saying they most likely are dipped, though nothing is wrong with that is profesionally done.
here is another . Sorry, I could not figure out how to resize these photos. Perhaps if the coin in question came with a pedigree , that may help convince one that it is original , and than again with that , some still may question whether or not the condition is original or enhanced because they are of the opinion that it is impossible for a coin of this age , could be preserved in this condition . As I said , back in the 70's there were a few rolls found in CA, and the middle of the rolls , most all were all "White " . So for me, it is not inconceivable that there are some that had survived to be encapsulated in an original, blast white condition, for this and other type coins as well . We will simply have to agree to disagree . So now you have some support for your position regarding this coin , what is your next move ?
My response to LDhair was related to his question on how coins can be so old and untoned -- by limiting airflow and thus sulphur. I was not suggesting that storage in bags was the case for SLQs, and you are correct to point out SLQs (to the best of my knowledge) were not stored in bags. However it is possible, and there are many cases, of 80+ year old silver being completely undipped and untoned. Me neither. The point of my post was that there are examples of untoned and undipped silver from the early 20th century, and we should be careful from speaking in absolutes with respect to these coins.
