1960 D/D "Error" and "Guess The Grade" by SEGS

Hope these scans will do. Also, the die crack or line near the rim is kind of interesting.

 

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SEGS = 64

Real life? AU

 

Maybe you should look again, when you're less GRUMPY.

 

I actually agree with that. I think I see some wear on the cheek and jaw. I'm also assuming those marks all over the reverse is on the holder...not the coin. If they are on the coin, I'd say the coin is damaged and not gradable.

 

I'm not expecting much from SEGS. The die looks to have been severely polished and there are tons of lines that protrude from the surface. I used 10X magnification and do not see a sign of actual cleaning. Aside from that, the coin looks red and mint.

 

AU-55

 

It's been a couple of hours, here we go, the big reveal....

Yes, MS-64 is what they saw it as. 1960 D/D, Large Date, RPM-7/RED, L1C, MS-64.

Nice to have an MS, even if it might be closer to 60 than 64.

 

apparently some other folks are also grumpy

 

Well, if it is and that is what SEGS considers MS 64, then it speaks volumes about their slabs. It's an inexpensive learning experience and the D/D seems to be accurate. I only see lines where the devices seem to be at the same lavel as the background. It's amazing that they managed to keep most of the high points on the coin frosted and without lines (as if straight from the mint), while completing their harsh cleaning. The lines still look to be raised in hand. I have no plans for even looking at coins in slabs other than the big four. This one just fell into my lap.

 

It is what it is, courtesy of SEGS. I'm not a Lincoln cent expert. I guess the frost or haze on the coin had time to resurface, since it is a 1960 example.

 

Here is the rest, I'm not taking any more photos. You be the judge...

 

your photos show a coin that has been both cleaned and scratched.

 

I agree...coin has problems for sure.

 

Well, I'll have to throw it in as a bonus for one of my swap partners.

 

SACRILEGE! All our Cdn dimes already look like that from people checking if they are silver, I guess?

 

Forget the coin, now I have, "the best and most innovative coin holder in the industry". Never had "an airtight isolated label compartment" or an "exclusive top view labeling design" in my collection before. Nice to know something coin related I own "is so innovative it is protected by a US Patent".

 

Before I give an opinion or an answer to any question or situation I try to make sure I am qualified to render an accurate answer or at the very least an appropriate response… otherwise I abstain.

The folks that posted response on this board regarding the 1960-D/D, RPM-7, Lincoln Cent indicates to me that they have more issues and other motivation than the lack of incentive to educate themselves to the subject matter.

It becomes exasperating and irritating to address these type posts when all one has to do to educate themselves is pick up a book or locate the information on line.

Let me clear up some of the confusion. This particular die is and was heavily polished at the U.S.Mint. Therefore, every coin struck from that die appears to have been polished and or cleaned but in reality is NOT. The condition of the die surfaces transfer to the coins thus affecting the surfaces to appear cleaned when they are NOT.

Let me state again, the aforementioned 1960-D/D, RPM-7, Lincoln Cent was not cleaned, polished or scratched and is not “AU” regardless of the opinions listed on this forum. Basically, the condition of the reverse of the coin is created from “weakness of strike” and the cheek is “marred” from being in the original bag. The remaining surfaces exhibit literally dozens of die polish lines contradicting those on this forum claiming “polished from cleaning”.

This coin is not “GEM” but is absolutely “Full Mint State” and not graded as a “Gem” specimen.

For those of you who like to trash “SEGS” without regard for the reputation they create for themselves; please know anytime you would like to have an educational forum and compare knowledge and ability we will be happy to accommodate in the most public of forums.

Larry Briggs

GDJMSP try this reference:http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1960&die_id=1960d1mm007&die_state=mds

 

Cheers! Now the thread is getting interesting.

In the interest of transparency...